Spirit Now Sure As It Emerges From Bankruptcy
#452
Almost there
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I'm not advocating for anyone to leave their airline to go to United, Delta, American or wherever. But when someone says it will take 5 years to get 2,500 behind them at a legacy, is pure bunk. That's easily less than 2 years. I remember people laughing when we had 12,000 pilots and were told we would be at 20,000 by 2025 (we made it to 18,000 instead). I don't think the 30,000 pilots by 2030 will happen, but I think 25,000 total is likely. This means we have to hire 10,000 pilots by 2030 because of retirement and growth.
The other problem is to say (not you saying it) Spirit is dead and there’s no chance. There is certainly a higher risk in staying right now but also a potentially higher reward. A merger/buyout would be more likely than ch. 7 IMO. Is the LC segment dead? No. Far from it. It has grown as a market segment some 500% since the legacies added the low cost seats. Now there are too many seats. Okay so now the LCCs are in the process of pivoting their business model just as the legacies have done in the past to compete with the LCCs. Let’s see how it plays out. If United is growing as much as you say then there should be no problem in getting a job when the time comes if it all falls apart.
#453
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It’s almost like someone’s trying to tell us something.
#454
The other problem is to say (not you saying it) Spirit is dead and there’s no chance. There is certainly a higher risk in staying right now but also a potentially higher reward. A merger/buyout would be more likely than ch. 7 IMO. Is the LC segment dead? No. Far from it. It has grown as a market segment some 500% since the legacies added the low cost seats. Now there are too many seats. Okay so now the LCCs are in the process of pivoting their business model just as the legacies have done in the past to compete with the LCCs. Let’s see how it plays out. If United is growing as much as you say then there should be no problem in getting a job when the time comes if it all falls apart.
#455
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I think Dave Davis said in the town hall that Spirit flew the most passengers ever in its history in 2024. Not dead, but definitely need to get the ship pointed in the right direction. We were our most profitable when we stayed in our own lane (and the legacies stayed in theirs). There was/is an addressable market, the problem for Spirit is that prior to 2015-16, we were the only ones doing it. Now everyone is, thus dividing up the revenue pie amongst everyone offering cheap tickets. We don’t have any other significant revenue streams, the legacies do.
#459
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This just dropped.
Today the Spirit owners filed with the SEC to sell 6.3M shares of the company. If the shares sell at the current market share price, it will net them about $30M. This equates to about 1/4 of the value of the company right now. Current market cap of FLYY is about $120M.
None of the shares are being sold to generate liquidity (per the use of funds paragraph).
Here is a link to the SEC filing: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...d614592ds1.htm
Today the Spirit owners filed with the SEC to sell 6.3M shares of the company. If the shares sell at the current market share price, it will net them about $30M. This equates to about 1/4 of the value of the company right now. Current market cap of FLYY is about $120M.
None of the shares are being sold to generate liquidity (per the use of funds paragraph).
Here is a link to the SEC filing: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...d614592ds1.htm
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