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Old 07-17-2025 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
In short, it's a bad sign.

I glanced at the S-1. Professional money managers are offloading stock, perhaps due to a lockup ending which now allows them to sell. Some are selling some of their FLYY stock, others are selling all of it. I assume this was bondholders who got converted to stock in the bankruptcy. They are almost certainly selling at a loss; perhaps for tax purposes, perhaps because they don't see FLYY staying out of bankruptcy. Either way, they're selling because FLYY stock is dead money to them and they can get a better return on capital elsewhere.

Spirit will see no money on this sale. In fact, it is costing Spirit because they have to pay some of the filing costs. From the S-1:
We will bear all costs, expenses and fees in connection with the registration of these securities, including with regard to compliance with state securities or “blue sky” laws. The Selling Stockholders will bear all commissions and discounts, if any, attributable to their sale of Common Stock. See “Plan of Distribution.”

So basically it's a sign that the bondholders and major investors aren't confident in the company.
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Old 07-17-2025 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Clarence Thomas
So much hope
Yea yea we know. You need Spirit to fail to make yourself feel better about leaving for AA. We get it. No one cares. Move on already.
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Old 07-17-2025 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BusBoi
So basically it's a sign that the bondholders and major investors aren't confident in the company.
It could mean several different things. The investors think Spirit will be forced to take a low ball offer from Frontier, even lower than the loss they’re taking now so they want to control the price they sell at best they can. Or they believe the offer will be stock and no cash, (they want cash), or maybe no offer comes in and we’re in chapter 11 again(stock wiped out) and then possible chapter 7. Could also mean they don’t want their money tied up in a merger/acquisition that may again fail.

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Old 07-17-2025 | 09:45 AM
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Overall, this is normal post-bankruptcy behavior. Bondholders are monetizing equity they didn’t choose for long-term holdings. No major insider red flags post-reorg.Volume today (~243,600) is in line with or slightly below average (~277,600)
  • That suggests there’s no massive block selling—it looks more like a broad pullback rather than a dump.

  • This appears to be an orderly, technical selloff — not a panic or forced dump.
  • Volume is moderate, not excessive, and aligns with regular trading patterns.
  • Indicators show technical breakdown, likely prompting traders to take profits or reduce exposure.
  • There’s no evidence yet of a big, coordinated dump from insiders or bondholders.

    The ~8% drop today seems rooted in technical market factors, not alarmingly large selling by insiders or bondholders. But continued volatility and monitoring of volume and filings over the next few days is wise.
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Old 07-17-2025 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Overall, this is normal post-bankruptcy behavior. Bondholders are monetizing equity they didn’t choose for long-term holdings. No major insider red flags post-reorg.Volume today (~243,600) is in line with or slightly below average (~277,600)
  • That suggests there’s no massive block selling—it looks more like a broad pullback rather than a dump.

  • This appears to be an orderly, technical selloff — not a panic or forced dump.
  • Volume is moderate, not excessive, and aligns with regular trading patterns.
  • Indicators show technical breakdown, likely prompting traders to take profits or reduce exposure.
  • There’s no evidence yet of a big, coordinated dump from insiders or bondholders.

    The ~8% drop today seems rooted in technical market factors, not alarmingly large selling by insiders or bondholders. But continued volatility and monitoring of volume and filings over the next few days is wise.
Volume is normal today because the S-1 isn't even effective yet. The SEC has to approve it, which normally takes a few weeks. It was just filed yesterday.

They are selling 6.2M shares, which is substantially more than the 250,000 shares traded per day.

The market is up substantially today as well as most airlines, but Spirit is off 8% already.
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Old 07-17-2025 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Overall, this is normal post-bankruptcy behavior. Bondholders are monetizing equity they didn’t choose for long-term holdings. No major insider red flags post-reorg.Volume today (~243,600) is in line with or slightly below average (~277,600)
  • That suggests there’s no massive block selling—it looks more like a broad pullback rather than a dump.

  • This appears to be an orderly, technical selloff — not a panic or forced dump.
  • Volume is moderate, not excessive, and aligns with regular trading patterns.
  • Indicators show technical breakdown, likely prompting traders to take profits or reduce exposure.
  • There’s no evidence yet of a big, coordinated dump from insiders or bondholders.

    The ~8% drop today seems rooted in technical market factors, not alarmingly large selling by insiders or bondholders. But continued volatility and monitoring of volume and filings over the next few days is wise.
Thanks chatgpt...
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Old 07-17-2025 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by gonyon
at this point we’d have to find a niche where we’re not competing with the legacy carriers and have much much lower cost. I’m not sure there’s much you can do about cost as we’re already one of the lowest in the industry…,,
I think they just found it….. Macon, Georgia. By furloughing 600 pilots and closing all Pilot Bases west of the Eastern Time Zone, this will free up the 100 Neos that work to fly to places like Macon from Fort Lauderdale on Tuesdays and Thursdays and every 5th Saturday.
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Old 07-17-2025 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Overall, this is normal post-bankruptcy behavior. Bondholders are monetizing equity they didn’t choose for long-term holdings. No major insider red flags post-reorg.Volume today (~243,600) is in line with or slightly below average (~277,600)
  • That suggests there’s no massive block selling—it looks more like a broad pullback rather than a dump.
  • This appears to be an orderly, technical selloff — not a panic or forced dump.
  • Volume is moderate, not excessive, and aligns with regular trading patterns.
  • Indicators show technical breakdown, likely prompting traders to take profits or reduce exposure.
  • There’s no evidence yet of a big, coordinated dump from insiders or bondholders.

    The ~8% drop today seems rooted in technical market factors, not alarmingly large selling by insiders or bondholders. But continued volatility and monitoring of volume and filings over the next few days is wise.
If burning $5-8 Million a day in Cash is normal Post Bankruptcy Behavior, might be time to revisit the history of all the major carriers that have liquidated over the years.
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Old 07-17-2025 | 10:41 AM
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So, is this part of the original bankruptcy exit plan?
Yes — it’s directly tied to the bankruptcy exit plan.

Here’s what’s going on:

🔍 What this filing means:

Spirit Aviation Holdings, Inc. filed Form S-1 to register 190,321,516 shares of common stock for resale.
  • These shares were issued to creditors or investors who participated in the exit financing as part of the reorganization.
  • The S-1 doesn’t mean Spirit is raising new capital — it allows the original holders (likely hedge funds, distressed debt investors, or other institutional backstoppers) to legally sell their shares on the open market.
🧩 How it fits into the bankruptcy plan:
In Spirit’s Chapter 11 Plan of Reorganization, there were specific provisions stating that:

Certain creditors or backstop parties would receive new equity in Spirit Aviation Holdings in exchange for debt forgiveness or capital contributions.
  • These new shareholders needed a registered route to sell their equity post-bankruptcy.
  • The S-1 is a follow-up mechanism to fulfill that requirement.
🟡 Why now?

The S-1 was filed in July 2025 because most lock-up periods (common in bankruptcy exits) last 90 to 180 days.
  • Spirit exited bankruptcy in March 2025, so this timing makes sense — investors are now free (or nearly free) to sell.
💥 Is it bad news?
Not necessarily, but here’s the nuance:

its not new dilution — the shares were already issued.
  • However, when large holders sell in volume, it can temporarily depress stock price, especially for a volatile company like Spirit.
  • It also signals that early investors may be looking to exit, which the market sometimes sees as a lack of long-term confidence.
✅ Bottom line:

Yes — this S-1 is part of Spirit’s pre-approved bankruptcy exit plan. It’s the step that allows early equity recipients (from the restructuring) to cash out their shares now that the company is public and restructure.




Yes it’s ChatGPT and I really don’t care if you want to make fun of it or not.

The fact of the matter is is that when they filed bankruptcy part of the exit of bankruptcy was that they were going to release the shares back to the bondholders. This is part of the process. Do a little bit of a research. And even those who are using chat, GPT, I think ChatGPT knows more about this process than most people here. Why? Because it knows where to research! It’s not an indication of the sky is falling, it’s not an indication of the doors are closing. It’s not a positive thing, but it’s not this doom and gloom negative thing that people are making it out to br. It’s part of the bankruptcy exit process. It was spelled out in the bankruptcy exit to begin with. Now, if you don’t work here and don’t have anything constructive to stay, go back home to your own chat and stop coming over here and be in demoralizing to people who are still working here. It’s easy to see the kids who were picked on in school, it must make you feel so good to be able to come over here hidden behind an anonymous screen name and say such demeaning things to people who are doing the best they can where they’re at.
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Old 07-17-2025 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GearedUp
If burning $5-8 Million a day in Cash is normal Post Bankruptcy Behavior, might be time to revisit the history of all the major carriers that have liquidated over the years.
Where did you get 8 million per day?
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