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Old 09-15-2025 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueDrlver
Are we still arguing over drop to zero on Spirits deathbed? That argument was stale two years ago.
Chimpy wasn't arguing, He was simply defending the quality of life the NK contract provided after it was pointed out by an uninformed BlueJuicer that a straight drop to zero is possible anywhere. It isn't. You guys should really go a little easier with the trash talking too. As a company, you're only a couple of years away from where NK is right now. That rather large $2.77B in debt financing you guys took out last year, which is backed by your loyalty program, is exactly what NK did which started the death spiral. And just like Spirit, you haven't been profitable since 2019. I wish you luck.
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Old 09-15-2025 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueDrlver
Are we still arguing over drop to zero on Spirits deathbed? That argument was stale two years ago.
If you want to have a level argument with Chimpy I'd say you should state your name.
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Old 09-16-2025 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SlimBob
If you want to have a level argument with Chimpy I'd say you should state your name.
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Old 09-16-2025 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
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hahah, the OG Days of APC 😂
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Old 09-16-2025 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
hahah, the OG Days of APC 😂
We’re old. I was 22 then, now I’m 41
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Old 09-16-2025 | 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
hahah, the OG Days of APC 😂
What about the OG OG days at xjt on the pipe lol
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Old 09-16-2025 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted Striker
What about the OG OG days at xjt on the pipe lol
crack pipe
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Old 09-16-2025 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Basic economy has little to do with Spirit’s situation. Horrible customers service is the cause.
NK's had horrible customer service since the day they started operations. NK was profitable until 2019. United and American followed Delta with a Basic Economy product in 2018. All three expanded Basic Economy offerings in subsequent years.
But sure BE has, little to do with Spirit and Frontier's (F9 was also losing money every year until they eked out a very small profit in 2024) financial issues.

Originally Posted by Chimpy
this is completely wrong. You absolutely can not Drop down to zero ANYWHERE as easily as you could at Nk, you could spend all day, everyday trying to drop at AA, UAL & DAL and some months it just isnt possible.
I'm at United and I dropped my entire schedule in July and August this year with very little effort. Around 50% in seat seniority. Didn't take much work for me. But it does depend on BES. More importantly, you need to understand how to work the system.
I dropped almost all of my schedule in the previous few summers (not quite to zero) and picked up premium trips.


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Old 09-16-2025 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
NK's had horrible customer service since the day they started operations. NK was profitable until 2019. United and American followed Delta with a Basic Economy product in 2018. All three expanded Basic Economy offerings in subsequent years.
But sure BE has, little to do with Spirit and Frontier's (F9 was also losing money every year until they eked out a very small profit in 2024) financial issues.



I'm at United and I dropped my entire schedule in July and August this year with very little effort. Around 50% in seat seniority. Didn't take much work for me. But it does depend on BES. More importantly, you need to understand how to work the system.
I dropped almost all of my schedule in the previous few summers (not quite to zero) and picked up premium trips.
Your “drop to zero” is seniority based?
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Old 09-16-2025 | 09:39 AM
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Is the NK D-T-Z dependent at ALL on staffing?

What is to stop the entire cadre of pilots of dropping to 0 and not do any flying?
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