both are gone even ATL and MCO chiefs

A big announcement is coming

Go on
 

please elaborate

you aren’t too big to fail.and a govt bailout would set a bad precedent. You will merge with f9 and jb to create a national LCC. the govt will give the new company operating cash to be repaid. It’s the only way out.

You have to consider the times and relative size. All airlines were much smaller back then and can’t be compared to today. The big legacy airlines only had around 500 aircraft, so relatively speaking Eastern, Pan Am, and Braniff shutting the doors would be considered big players and too big to fail but they’re all gone.

Oh snap. Where did the MCO Chief go? Super cool guy

Just started at AA

Solid. Good for him. Definitely deserves a solid place to land at!

Eastern had a 15% domestic market share a few years before they collapsed. Spirit's market share now is about 1.8%.

No. It's why they had a couple sets of ribs removed.

As much as I rarely want Kirby to be wrong in general (I’m with United), I have been hoping in this case, since this thread title first started; that he would be. I don’t know what the future holds for you all but like the vast majority (most of whom are not on this site), I hope it is just a bump along the road for your careers and that an opportunity presents itself for all of you sooner rather than later should one be needed. We all, at one point in our lives; stood on the outside of that chain linked fence dreaming of flying. Whatever happens don’t let it define you or sideline your dreams to fly for a living if indeed that is your continued goal. You are all in my thoughts.

Spirit Executives are all in Colorado Big meeting tomorrow with Frontier

If that’s true, it’s before they meet with govt. Trump admin provides liquidity to cover some of spirit’s losses while frontier completes the purchase? Cash is either paid back on long term loan, or maybe equity is given to government in combined company. Government also gets a big ULCC to keep airfare low and prevents job loss.

Like back in January? lol

Haha I saw that too. Looks like he trolls a bit

No they are not. Frontier isn't riding in to save the day for you. Should have gotten out while you could. Stop spreading rumors and false hope to the gullible and desperate.

Spirit's dead. Over. Done for and gone.

Just for reference, this guy said Spirit was shutting down this past January, December, September, August, July, and May. I am sure he will be right one of these days. Though to be fair if I had to leave Spirit for GoJet I'd be bitter too.

Seriously doubt Bill Franke would give equity to the government just to get Spirit.

SWA guy here. Ive been following all of this and hoping for the best for all affected. I have jump seated and bought tickets for the fam many times with Spirit and we’ve always been treated with the industry perks. Great employee group and I have many friends who work with you. I wish you guys nothing but the best and hope everything turns around for you. See you out there gents

Frontier buying Spirit is a quick way to run Frontier into BK too. Frontier is trying to keep their own house in order. Also, don’t think government will bail out NK because there is no business plan and the government can’t show favoritism to one airline over the others.

The Federal Government has already shown favoritism through the unequal enforcement of the Clayton Act.

with all due respect, the Government has and will do whatever they want, lol

He’s right.

The fact that the mega mergers were allowed and B6/NK was stopped is literally laughable. Clayton Act should have been argued on HA/AK merger - why wasn’t it? If just one market will see consumers harmed, it should be have been stopped.


Nvm. I’m gonna get wound up. It’s ridiculous though.

Maybe the feds can't help, but Trump make a personal investment in the airline as a show of ?xxx?. With the name comes clout and something good come out of it? Nothing is out of the question with him.

nobody want their name associated with spirit

that would be anti-competitive. and that worked out great in the past didn't it...

It would be something if Trump saved Spirit after Biden tried to ruin them.

Trump’s previous airline failed

Which airline from back then didn't? That's like those who like to say his Casino went bankrupt while neglecting to mention the fact that every casino in Atlantic city did the same.

I don’t think the GOV will want to fund a loan (which will never be paid back) for a business plan that does not work. ULCC is a failure and won’t work in the US.

NK shed a bunch of debt and still can’t make money. There is no plan in place, just talk. The BK court won’t even let them out of BK because of this. Oil is hurting, for sure, but even if oil was down, NK has no plan to make money. Their ONLY plan is to get bought. No takers. Maybe Frontier today? My guess is no.

You may want to review your sources of information.


Key US Airlines That Avoided Bankruptcy (1985–1995)

• American Airlines: Known as one of the few legacy carriers that did not seek bankruptcy protection during this era.
• Southwest Airlines: Continued its rapid growth as a low-cost carrier during the 1980s and 1990s without filing for bankruptcy.
• Delta Air Lines: Did not do so during the 1985–1995 period and in fact grew by acquiring bankrupt Pan Am's assets in 1991.
• United Airlines: Similar to Delta, United did not file during this specific period.
• Alaska Airlines: The regional carrier continued its operations as a strong West Coast carrier, avoiding bankruptcy during this period.
• Hawaiian Airlines: Survived this period without bankruptcy.

While most major casinos in Atlantic City have faced bankruptcy at the corporate level, the Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa stands out as the most consistently successful property that has never filed for bankruptcy.

Didn't The Borgata open in 2003? I mean you are using a casino that not only did not open up in the same Decade but not even the same Millennia as Trump's casino. GTFO

Comparing those airlines to Trumps, what, 20 aircraft at the height of Trump Airlines? Did those airlines even start service in the mid-80s, or were they already well established in one way or the other. How is that a comparison to the many start up airlines that failed in that era, like almost all of them. Just like the Casinos in Atlantic City. Cool stories tho, please tell us more.

LOL, the butthurt is strong....

I simply answered your rhetorical questions that you assumed no one would fact check.
You must be a gym monster to be able to move those goal posts all by yourself...

You brought counter arguments that did nothing to dispel my original point, that was the point of my post. You want to talk moving Goal Posts, how about comparing Trump Airlines to American Airlines or comparing the profit of an 80s Atlantic City Casino to one that opened up in the 2000s lol

Who cares? Trump wouldn’t be personally running the airline anyways.

but if he did it would be great. Fantastic. Probably the best airline ever and people would write books about how successful it was.

Actually, might not be *all* bad...

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ah the good Ole days

Yes! God I miss when the “stewardesses” were openly objectified.

/s