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Elevation 01-20-2026 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by TAFsMatter (Post 3993068)
Yes, yes and the Sun will turn into a giant star and make Earth uninhabitable in a few billion years. That is also a mathematical certainty. Hopefully by then multiple starships would be pointed to multiple different stars...

Thing is people/companies/entites etc can adapt and overcome and have effective contingency plans instead of running the same failing model and pinning all hopes on one single transaction with no realistic backup plan should plan A be blocked by a judge....

This is bad cosmology.

Grumble 01-26-2026 10:32 PM

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...A2bu/giphy.gif

Kirby, being told he was wrong about NK on APC by a wildly underpaid random pilot he doesn’t and will never care about.

dmeg13021 01-27-2026 01:59 AM

To be fair, this is also how Kirby feels about UA pilots

LTJ9 01-27-2026 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 3997004)
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...A2bu/giphy.gif

Kirby, being told he was wrong about NK on APC by a wildly underpaid random pilot he doesn’t and will never care about.

Kirby is pretty good at what he does, but he’s a tool, not sure why you’re simping for him. Luckily it seems AA is in his scopes now.

rickair7777 01-27-2026 07:08 AM

At this point in my career I'd perfectly happy with a competent tool running my airline. There are many worse alternatives.

drywhitetoast 01-27-2026 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by LTJ9 (Post 3997096)
Kirby is pretty good at what he does, but he’s a tool, not sure why you’re simping for him. Luckily it seems AA is in his scopes now.

He might be a tool but he's our tool.

SoFloFlyer 01-27-2026 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by drywhitetoast (Post 3997112)
He might be a tool but he's our tool.

This right here^^^

RippinClapBombs 01-27-2026 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by LTJ9 (Post 3997096)
Kirby is pretty good at what he does, but he’s a tool, not sure why you’re simping for him. Luckily it seems AA is in his scopes now.

We don’t even compete with United for the most part except ORD—they make most their profits on international markets. It’s 150% Delta's management who is—and has been—bending over AA management for the last 10 years. Kirby’s response to American building back ORD is by adding more RJ flying to places like Kalamazoo. The RASM is exceeding CASM only for United argument in ORD is a BS claim by Kirby who wants to build his own version of DFW/ATL with ORD and AA won’t let him. Why not make a ridiculous claim and hope investors force AA to back down—it doesn’t cost SK anything.

jdt30 01-27-2026 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs (Post 3997139)
We don’t even compete with United for the most part except ORD. It’s 150% Delta's management who is—and has been—bending over AA management for the last 10 years. Kirby’s response to American building back ORD is by adding more RJ flying to places like Kalamazoo. The RASM is exceeding CASM only for United argument in ORD is a BS claim by Kirby who wants to build his own version of DFW/ATL with ORD and AA won’t let him.

are you kidding? AA management has been bending themselves over.

RippinClapBombs 01-27-2026 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by jdt30 (Post 3997140)
are you kidding? AA management has been bending themselves over.

Well yeah that too

Noisecanceller 01-27-2026 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs (Post 3997139)
We don’t even compete with United for the most part except ORD—they make most their profits on international markets. It’s 150% Delta's management who is—and has been—bending over AA management for the last 10 years. Kirby’s response to American building back ORD is by adding more RJ flying to places like Kalamazoo. The RASM is exceeding CASM only for United argument in ORD is a BS claim by Kirby who wants to build his own version of DFW/ATL with ORD and AA won’t let him. Why not make a ridiculous claim and hope investors force AA to back down—it doesn’t cost SK anything.

isn’t that what IAH is?

RippinClapBombs 01-27-2026 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3997378)
isn’t that what IAH is?

No, IAH has less than 400 daily departures. ATL and DFW almost triple the daily departures for American and Delta respectively.

Ripinpeace 01-27-2026 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3997378)
isn’t that what IAH is?

IAH is a joke and way over-served as is due to its status as a hub. As far as a southern region hub goes for the legacies IAH is by far the weakest and least globally connected.

Freds Ex 01-27-2026 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by Ripinpeace (Post 3997449)
IAH is a joke and way over-served as is due to its status as a hub. As far as a southern region hub goes for the legacies IAH is by far the weakest and least globally connected.

I know you're probably just late-night trolling as usual, but I'll bite.

IAH is certainly a dump - what southern region hub for a legacy carrier isn't? - but IAH is certainly not a joke.

Currently IAH is the weakest of the ATL/CLT/DFW/IAH combo but has significantly more potential than ATL. If IAH is over-served, ATL is even more over-served.

The IAH metro is 120% the size of the ATL metro and IAH also has notably better geography for domestic, LatAm, and global connectivity unless you're trying to go to South Africa.

I'd expect IAH to continue to grow at a reasonable rate. Will it ever have the variety of Europe flying that ATL does? no, but you also can't take DL direct from ATL to SYD or AA from CLT to SYD either.

SoFloFlyer 01-27-2026 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by Freds Ex (Post 3997456)
I know you're probably just late-night trolling as usual, but I'll bite.

IAH is certainly a dump - what southern region hub for a legacy carrier isn't? - but IAH is certainly not a joke.

Currently IAH is the weakest of the ATL/CLT/DFW/IAH combo but has significantly more potential than ATL. If IAH is over-served, ATL is even more over-served.

The IAH metro is 120% the size of the ATL metro and IAH also has notably better geography for domestic, LatAm, and global connectivity unless you're trying to go to South Africa.

I'd expect IAH to continue to grow at a reasonable rate. Will it ever have the variety of Europe flying that ATL does? no, but you also can't take DL direct from ATL to SYD or AA from CLT to SYD either.

Would've been easier to let him troll. Now, there will be at least 2 more replies from him lol

”Blah blah blah Delta blah blah blah ATL/Profit Sharing/WB Orders blah blah blah ….DeLtA”

Ripinpeace 01-31-2026 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Freds Ex (Post 3997456)
I know you're probably just late-night trolling as usual, but I'll bite.

IAH is certainly a dump - what southern region hub for a legacy carrier isn't? - but IAH is certainly not a joke.

Currently IAH is the weakest of the ATL/CLT/DFW/IAH combo but has significantly more potential than ATL. If IAH is over-served, ATL is even more over-served.

The IAH metro is 120% the size of the ATL metro and IAH also has notably better geography for domestic, LatAm, and global connectivity unless you're trying to go to South Africa.

I'd expect IAH to continue to grow at a reasonable rate. Will it ever have the variety of Europe flying that ATL does? no, but you also can't take DL direct from ATL to SYD or AA from CLT to SYD either.

ATL and IAH metro population is only 1 million difference in population. 120%?? 😂 Where on Earth did you get your information? They are, by all means similar sized metros. Are you confusing Houston’s complete lack of zoning laws and infamous sprawl with population size?

If you go by CSA and not MSA, they are actually the exact same size. Except! Atlanta is dominated by one airport and carrier unlike the IAH+HOU combo.

ATL is within a 2hr flight of 80% of the nations population and is on the east coast where “TATL” (ya know by far the most populous region for international travel) travel exists. ATL is immensely much better quipped for domestic and international travel and the route maps reflect that.

DFW is a monster to IAH and ATL over both. If you want to go to SYD (mind you, seasonally since UA can’t support it year round) sure have fun flying out of IAH less than half the year. Houston will continue to grow domestically since United’s domestic network is industry worst and they need to fill it in. Expect more GoJet RJ’s and dilapidated 737/319’s to new exotic destinations like DAB. IAH doesn’t have some magical potential is hasn’t tapped into yet. There’s a reason it’s been treated like garbage by United (next to Guam) and will permanently lag DFW, CLT, MIA, and ATL in virtually all metrics. Always love to see SoFlo cope :D

Turbosina 01-31-2026 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Ripinpeace (Post 3998959)
ATL and IAH metro population is only 1 million difference in population. 120%?? 😂 Where on Earth did you get your information? They are, by all means similar sized metros. Are you confusing Houston’s complete lack of zoning laws and infamous sprawl with population size?

If you go by CSA and not MSA, they are actually the exact same size. Except! Atlanta is dominated by one airport and carrier unlike the IAH+HOU combo.

ATL is within a 2hr flight of 80% of the nations population and is on the east coast where “TATL” (ya know by far the most populous region for international travel) travel exists. ATL is immensely much better quipped for domestic and international travel and the route maps reflect that.

DFW is a monster to IAH and ATL over both. If you want to go to SYD (mind you, seasonally since UA can’t support it year round) sure have fun flying out of IAH less than half the year. Houston will continue to grow domestically since United’s domestic network is industry worst and they need to fill it in. Expect more GoJet RJ’s and dilapidated 737/319’s to new exotic destinations like DAB. IAH doesn’t have some magical potential is hasn’t tapped into yet. There’s a reason it’s been treated like garbage by United (next to Guam) and will permanently lag DFW, CLT, MIA, and ATL in virtually all metrics. Always love to see SoFlo cope :D


Let me guess. Riddle grad.

SoFloFlyer 01-31-2026 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3997466)
Would've been easier to let him troll. Now, there will be at least 2 more replies from him lol

”Blah blah blah Delta blah blah blah ATL/Profit Sharing/WB Orders blah blah blah ….DeLtA”

I called it lol

SkyGodKing 02-02-2026 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Ripinpeace (Post 3997449)
IAH is a joke and way over-served as is due to its status as a hub. As far as a southern region hub goes for the legacies IAH is by far the weakest and least globally connected.

It's good for mexico and south America.

SkyGodKing 02-02-2026 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3998970)
Let me guess. Riddle grad.

The Harvard of aviation.

DumboDrop 02-02-2026 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by SkyGodKing (Post 3999678)
The Harvard of aviation.

To quote the Simpsons "The most expensive, and therefore best university"

John Carr 02-02-2026 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by jdt30 (Post 3997140)
are you kidding? AA management has been bending themselves over.

But are they double jointed?

gloopy 02-06-2026 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by SkyGodKing (Post 3999678)
The Harvard of aviation.

Thats actually a dis at this point lol. Even without the intended sarcasm.

BlueJuice01 04-15-2026 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by TheCalmCaptain (Post 3987129)
In just a few hours it will be 2026 and I’m proud to announce, Kirby was wrong! We are still here and more resilient and determined than ever. Kirby tried everything to put us out of business from mirroring our à la cart business model, undercutting prices on our routes, obsessively bad mouthing us, failed attempt to purchase targeted assets and last but not least teaming up with JetBlue to drive our FLL yields down. Well, we’re still here!

I’m so proud of this “down with the ship” pilot group. 2026 is going to be a great year for us!

Below is the list of the relentless “Spirit is liquidating by the end of 2025” cheerleaders.

Sorry guys, you were wrong.

Noisecaceller
SSlow
Flyokish
Name user
Friendly pilot
Nry8
Busboi
StoneQOLdcrazy
LNAVVNAVPATH
DIRKDIGGLER9999
GPULLRSHRSAILPLANES
CINCODEMAYO
Fettywap
Putzin
FW90
Halon1211
Washout
Symbian simian
Jules Winfield
Bluejuice01
Washout
Bluespoon
BoeingBrat
TAFsMATTER
PowderKeg
Checkgear
flier320
Jac3d


This is about to age very well in the next 72hrs!

putzin 04-15-2026 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by BlueJuice01 (Post 4023897)
This is about to age very well in the next 72hrs!

‘See, I told you so’ that’s your big win?

What a child.

I won’t deny Captcalm his ism but like everyone else he was guessing. He’s not wrong yet and he might never be.





DirkDiggler9999 04-15-2026 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 4023903)
‘See, I told you so’ that’s your big win?

What a child.

I won’t deny Captcalm his ism but like everyone else he was guessing. He’s not wrong yet and he might never be.

I agree. If this comes to fruition, there will be a lot of families affected by this. Let’s hope it’s either not true or everyone lands firmly on their feet if it is true.

Lincoln Osiris 04-15-2026 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by BlueJuice01 (Post 4023897)
This is about to age very well in the next 72hrs!

Sounds like you couldn't be happier about it. Tool.

BlueJuice01 04-15-2026 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 4023916)
Sounds like you couldn't be happier about it. Tool.

Not really , not happy with the concept of people loosing jobs. Being definitively called out in the original post. This is just an open ended response to it that can tip either way.

As I said "this post will age very well in the next 72hrs" he will either be right or he will be wrong.

Lincoln Osiris 04-15-2026 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by BlueJuice01 (Post 4023918)
Not really , not happy with the concept of people loosing jobs. Being definitively called out by the original poster , yes.

As I said "this post will age very well in the next 72hrs" he will either be right or he will be wrong.

So your little feelings got hurt and now you are happy that 10,000+ people will be out of a job? ... Yea that really makes sense actually.

Agratefulflyer 04-15-2026 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 4023921)
So your little feelings got hurt and now you are happy that 10,000+ people will be out of a job? ... Yea that really makes sense actually.

kinda messed up that he gets called and when he responds back it’s a problem. But I get it ….its a sensitive topic . That so called calm captain shouldnt have made that embarrassing list .

Lincoln Osiris 04-15-2026 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Agratefulflyer (Post 4023932)
kinda messed up that he gets called and when he responds back it’s a problem. But I get it ….its a sensitive topic . That so called calm captain shouldnt have made that embarrassing list .

Or maybe people shouldn't come in here shoving crap in Spirit pilots faces every chance they get like they don't live with it every day enough already? You beat people down long enough eventually when they get a reason to push back, they will.

RippinClapBombs 04-15-2026 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Agratefulflyer (Post 4023932)
kinda messed up that he gets called and when he responds back it’s a problem. But I get it ….its a sensitive topic . That so called calm captain shouldnt have made that embarrassing list .

The number of grammatical errors in this post is embarrassing.

RStrawberry 04-16-2026 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by BlueJuice01 (Post 4023897)
This is about to age very well in the next 72hrs!

This is the single most pathetic display of behavior I’ve ever seen on this board which is saying something considering my own posting. Get a life, or better yet, find some humility & empathy.

SmitteyB 04-16-2026 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by BlueJuice01 (Post 4023897)
This is about to age very well in the next 72hrs!

It is humiliating that you are a JetBlue pilot.

Spirit pilots - that is not indicative of B6 sentiment towards you folks. Wishing you nothing but the best.

biigD 04-16-2026 01:44 AM

I'm always amazed at APC's ability to dredge up the biggest pieces of **** in our industry.

8JRMfortheyear 04-16-2026 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by biigD (Post 4023983)
I'm always amazed at APC's ability to dredge up the biggest pieces of **** in our industry.

I never understood why B6 cadets have this hate towards NK. I know its not all but a GOOD MAJORITY have this ill hate. I know during their indoc CEO would come in and plant the hate seed but holy Sh*t !

Cujo665 04-16-2026 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 4023903)
‘See, I told you so’ that’s your big win?

What a child.

I won’t deny Captcalm his ism but like everyone else he was guessing. He’s not wrong yet and he might never be.

hes the type that meow’s on guard and Tracon frequencies……

funny, you never hear that garbage overseas….

CincoDeMayo 04-16-2026 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 4024103)
hes the type that meow’s on guard and Tracon frequencies……

funny, you never hear that garbage overseas….

You rarely hear meowing west of the Mississippi…


flier320 04-16-2026 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by BlueJuice01 (Post 4023897)
This is about to age very well in the next 72hrs!

You're next, so don't worry about it. ******* jetblue


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