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Agratefulflyer 01-13-2026 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3991607)
I am one of the ones called out in OPs post. Just went through my last 500 posts. Not only was the vast majority not related to NK, these are AFAIK the only ones that mentioned NK not surviving:







Just having the opinion that NK will not survive is not the same as cheering for it. And I think the vast majority of ex-NK feels this way.

i wouldn’t have even entertained this account. It’s actually sad watching what they’re going through now. Listing people like that while the boat is sinking is a real tear jerker.

airsense00 01-13-2026 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by STIorSTD (Post 3991711)
keep us posted… 🤞🏻🤞🏻

Hope everything works out for you guys

Thanks, the pay just hit so looks like we are getting paid for the 15th.

flier320 01-14-2026 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by Agratefulflyer (Post 3991794)
i wouldn’t have even entertained this account. It’s actually sad watching what they’re going through now. Listing people like that while the boat is sinking is a real tear jerker.

I mean......it's not like the company destroyed all of our careers or something....

Softpayman 01-14-2026 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3991737)
Always a possibility for that sort of thing, but it's not any more likely now than any other time. Little regional brushfires don't matter. We're not going to war with RU. China would be an issue, big mess west of HI and would likely spill over a little bit to other regions.

lol, tell yourself that it’s not more likely now.

How would it go over with the flying public if a known state sponsor of terrorism were to target multiple US or Western aircraft?

TadKrusty 01-14-2026 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by flier320 (Post 3991931)
I mean......it's not like the company destroyed all of our careers or something....


Yeah like that’s ever happened at a legacy 🤦🏻‍♂️. Stick around!

flier320 01-15-2026 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by TadKrusty (Post 3992280)
Yeah like that’s ever happened at a legacy 🤦🏻‍♂️. Stick around!

That would be a NO from me, dog

TadKrusty 01-15-2026 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by flier320 (Post 3992300)
That would be a NO from me, dog

Stick around sweetheart! history has a way of repeating itself. Ask the TWA, the UsAir, Eastern, Pan Am guys etc. Anyone that’s been in the industry long enough knows. From the sounds of it, your parents set you up well, flight school, reginal for quick stint, NK for awhile, now a legacy. Other then a little light chop from NK your career vector has been smooth. No 9/11, no financial crisis of 2010, positioned well to ride out Covid 19, afterwards it got a little rough for you and sky was falling.

If you have moved? Stop coming back to revisit you NK experience and enjoy your new gig/honeymoon period at your current airline. Hopefully it’s smooth for you the rest of your career and the rest of the peeps that jumped ship.

Hamandswiss 01-15-2026 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by TadKrusty (Post 3992314)
Stick around sweetheart! history has a way of repeating itself. Ask the TWA, the UsAir, Eastern, Pan Am guys etc. Anyone that’s been in the industry long enough knows. From the sounds of it, your parents set you up well, flight school, reginal for quick stint, NK for awhile, now a legacy. Other then a little light chop from NK your career vector has been smooth. No 9/11, no financial crisis of 2010, positioned well to ride out Covid 19, afterwards it got a little rough for you and sky was falling.

If you have moved? Stop coming back to revisit you NK experience and enjoy your new gig/honeymoon period at your current airline. Hopefully it’s smooth for you the rest of your career and the rest of the peeps that jumped ship.

Delusional much?

LNAVVNAVPATH 01-15-2026 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by TadKrusty (Post 3992314)
Stick around sweetheart! history has a way of repeating itself. Ask the TWA, the UsAir, Eastern, Pan Am guys etc. Anyone that’s been in the industry long enough knows. From the sounds of it, your parents set you up well, flight school, reginal for quick stint, NK for awhile, now a legacy. Other then a little light chop from NK your career vector has been smooth. No 9/11, no financial crisis of 2010, positioned well to ride out Covid 19, afterwards it got a little rough for you and sky was falling.

If you have moved? Stop coming back to revisit you NK experience and enjoy your new gig/honeymoon period at your current airline. Hopefully it’s smooth for you the rest of your career and the rest of the peeps that jumped ship.

You believe in this dumpster fire? I’ve been trying to leave for over a year now. Some of my favorite comments from juicers on here are “I wouldn’t want to be on the bottom of Legacy right now”. And, “Look at PanAm, if it can happen to them, it can happen to Delta or United.”……..um, no it can’t. The US Federal government will never let any of the Big 4 go under. They are to big to fail. It would be like letting GMC go under or JP Morgan go under. Also, it took PanAm a decade to shrink itself by 50% before it finally went under. We have done it inside 12 months. They at least sold their Pacific division to United in 1985 which gave them another 6 years. Any ideas what we got paid for the 20+ West Coast cities we just abandoned and pulled out of over the past year?

Acehole 01-15-2026 06:15 AM

I remember all the people that said “I do t wanna be at the bottom of a legacy list” around Covid time also. Then they hired 5-6k more…..

flier320 01-15-2026 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by TadKrusty (Post 3992314)
Stick around sweetheart! history has a way of repeating itself. Ask the TWA, the UsAir, Eastern, Pan Am guys etc. Anyone that’s been in the industry long enough knows. From the sounds of it, your parents set you up well, flight school, reginal for quick stint, NK for awhile, now a legacy. Other then a little light chop from NK your career vector has been smooth. No 9/11, no financial crisis of 2010, positioned well to ride out Covid 19, afterwards it got a little rough for you and sky was falling.

If you have moved? Stop coming back to revisit you NK experience and enjoy your new gig/honeymoon period at your current airline. Hopefully it’s smooth for you the rest of your career and the rest of the peeps that jumped ship.

I've stayed way too long in this ****hole of a company believing in teddys endless lies

TadKrusty 01-15-2026 06:47 AM

News flash! Ted has moved on; like you should.

rickair7777 01-15-2026 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Softpayman (Post 3992162)
How would it go over with the flying public if a known state sponsor of terrorism were to target multiple US or Western aircraft?

They literally wouldn't dare. They saw what happened last time, and now with Trump in office? They'd be lucky if the rubble of their cities didn't glow in the dark. Whatever you think of DJT, nobody wants to Press to Test.

Any of a variety of junior varsity fringe lunatic groups might try anything at any time, but it's been proven that they can't really cross the ocean and pull off big events in the US without state sponsorship. Not only will States not go there, they also actively impede anyone who might be associated with them from going there... Hezbollah, Hamas, etc could have conducted ops in the US, but Iran wouldn't allow that because they know the chickens would come home to roost. Iran's main guy got whacked because he was coordinating small-scale attacks on US service members in Iraq.

flier320 01-15-2026 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by TadKrusty (Post 3992353)
News flash! Ted has moved on; like you should.

News flash! We all moving on here very soon.....

TadKrusty 01-15-2026 08:21 AM

Here you go 320>> 🏆 thanks for participating. 😎👍 (no doubt you understand)

Noisecanceller 01-15-2026 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by LNAVVNAVPATH (Post 3992319)
You believe in this dumpster fire? I’ve been trying to leave for over a year now. Some of my favorite comments from juicers on here are “I wouldn’t want to be on the bottom of Legacy right now”. And, “Look at PanAm, if it can happen to them, it can happen to Delta or United.”……..um, no it can’t. The US Federal government will never let any of the Big 4 go under. They are to big to fail. It would be like letting GMC go under or JP Morgan go under. Also, it took PanAm a decade to shrink itself by 50% before it finally went under. We have done it inside 12 months. They at least sold their Pacific division to United in 1985 which gave them another 6 years. Any ideas what we got paid for the 20+ West Coast cities we just abandoned and pulled out of over the past year?

Youve been trying to leave for a year? Whats holding you up? Anyone I know that’s applied has been able to interview. If you didn’t get the job that’s on you. If they haven’t called in the first place there’s a reason, and I’d say you’re lucky to be at Spirit and should be a little more grateful for the opportunity this dumpster fire gave you.

Hamandswiss 01-15-2026 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3992443)
Youve been trying to leave for a year? Whats holding you up? Anyone I know that’s applied has been able to interview. If you didn’t get the job that’s on you. If they haven’t called in the first place there’s a reason, and I’d say you’re lucky to be at Spirit and should be a little more grateful for the opportunity this dumpster fire gave you.

Whats the point of coming here to be a d*ck? Delta has been walking Spirit guys to the door and telling them to apply again. They’re targeting Spirit pilots. Is that “on you?”

8JRMfortheyear 01-15-2026 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3992443)
Youve been trying to leave for a year? Whats holding you up? Anyone I know that’s applied has been able to interview. If you didn’t get the job that’s on you. If they haven’t called in the first place there’s a reason, and I’d say you’re lucky to be at Spirit and should be a little more grateful for the opportunity this dumpster fire gave you.


Holding up? Duh, it’s the concessions he’s taking by leaving.

gloopy 01-15-2026 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Hamandswiss (Post 3992444)
Delta has been walking Spirit guys to the door and telling them to apply again. They’re targeting Spirit pilots. Is that “on you?”

Say what now?

I’ve flown with a lot of former NK pilots the last year.

Noisecanceller 01-15-2026 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by Hamandswiss (Post 3992444)
Whats the point of coming here to be a d*ck? Delta has been walking Spirit guys to the door and telling them to apply again. They’re targeting Spirit pilots. Is that “on you?”

The poster I responded to started an absolutely ridiculous troll thread. Talks total nonsense about spirit yet says he’s trying to leave but can’t. I don’t buy it.

Thrust Hold 01-15-2026 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3992521)
The poster I responded to started an absolutely ridiculous troll thread. Talks total nonsense about spirit yet says he’s trying to leave but can’t. I don’t buy it.

He ate his pride and laid it all out in another thread.

He got a DUI 7 years ago and that seems to be holding him back from moving on.

flier320 01-15-2026 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by TadKrusty (Post 3992380)
Here you go 320>> 🏆 thanks for participating. 😎👍 (no doubt you understand)

see you in the unemployment line....

hoover 01-15-2026 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Thrust Hold (Post 3992551)
He ate his pride and laid it all out in another thread.

He got a DUI 7 years ago and that seems to be holding him back from moving on.

if so that sucks, but aren't drivers records only 2 yrs back. Maybe since it needed to be reported to the FAA it's permanent idk.
A DUI that long ago shouldn't be that preventative.
We all.make mistakes and pilots especially can learn from them and often do.

CincoDeMayo 01-15-2026 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3992616)
if so that sucks, but aren't drivers records only 2 yrs back. Maybe since it needed to be reported to the FAA it's permanent idk.
A DUI that long ago shouldn't be that preventative.
We all.make mistakes and pilots especially can learn from them and often do.

It’s all a troll account and people keep falling for it.

Nobody is “selling” their pets to help save money if their company goes out of business. Does that pass the smell test for anyone? You going to sell your dogs and cat because of Spirt? It’s hilarious you guys believe him.

He gets bored and creates another thread, like his recent regional thread. Like the other troll accounts have done as well.

hoover 01-16-2026 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3992672)
It’s all a troll account and people keep falling for it.

Nobody is “selling” their pets to help save money if their company goes out of business. Does that pass the smell test for anyone? You going to sell your dogs and cat because of Spirt? It’s hilarious you guys believe him.

He gets bored and creates another thread, like his recent regional thread. Like the other troll accounts have done as well.

yeah I know he's a troll. Was more of a question for my edification.

Noisecanceller 01-16-2026 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Thrust Hold (Post 3992551)
He ate his pride and laid it all out in another thread.

He got a DUI 7 years ago and that seems to be holding him back from moving on.

Total nonsense.

Halon1211 01-16-2026 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by TheCalmCaptain (Post 3987129)
In just a few hours it will be 2026 and I’m proud to announce, Kirby was wrong! We are still here and more resilient and determined than ever. Kirby tried everything to put us out of business from mirroring our à la cart business model, undercutting prices on our routes, obsessively bad mouthing us, failed attempt to purchase targeted assets and last but not least teaming up with JetBlue to drive our FLL yields down. Well, we’re still here!

I’m so proud of this “down with the ship” pilot group. 2026 is going to be a great year for us!

Below is the list of the relentless “Spirit is liquidating by the end of 2025” cheerleaders.

Sorry guys, you were wrong.

Noisecaceller
SSlow
Flyokish
Name user
Friendly pilot
Nry8
Busboi
StoneQOLdcrazy
LNAVVNAVPATH
DIRKDIGGLER9999
GPULLRSHRSAILPLANES
CINCODEMAYO
Fettywap
Putzin
FW90
Halon1211
Washout
Symbian simian
Jules Winfield
Bluejuice01
Washout
Bluespoon
BoeingBrat
TAFsMATTER
PowderKeg
Checkgear
flier320
Jac3d


https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzanne...ed-this-month/

We shall see…

ropestart 01-16-2026 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3992846)

it’s a mathematical certainty.

colonials13 01-16-2026 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3992846)

That you, Brown Baron?

Ramtony31 01-16-2026 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3992846)

Guess Kirby was right!

flyboyike 01-16-2026 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by ropestart (Post 3992952)
it’s a mathematical certainty.

I mean...one could argue that it's a mathematical certainty that EVERY company will fail eventually...

TAFsMatter 01-16-2026 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by flyboyike (Post 3993043)
I mean...one could argue that it's a mathematical certainty that EVERY company will fail eventually...

Yes, yes and the Sun will turn into a giant star and make Earth uninhabitable in a few billion years. That is also a mathematical certainty. Hopefully by then multiple starships would be pointed to multiple different stars...

Thing is people/companies/entites etc can adapt and overcome and have effective contingency plans instead of running the same failing model and pinning all hopes on one single transaction with no realistic backup plan should plan A be blocked by a judge....

LNAVVNAVPATH 01-16-2026 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by ropestart (Post 3992952)
it’s a mathematical certainty.

Thats why I just unloaded my house, one of my cars, my animals, and pulled kids from club sports. I’m ready.

Bluediver 01-16-2026 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by LNAVVNAVPATH (Post 3993133)
one of my cars, I’m ready.

Please say it wasn’t the beloved Miata.

checkgear 01-17-2026 01:38 AM


Originally Posted by Bluediver (Post 3993159)
Please say it wasn’t the beloved Miata.

He said one of his cars, not the greatest car of all time.

Hamandswiss 01-17-2026 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by tafsmatter (Post 3993068)
yes, yes and the sun will turn into a giant star and make earth uninhabitable in a few billion years. That is also a mathematical certainty. Hopefully by then multiple starships would be pointed to multiple different stars...

Thing is people/companies/entites etc can adapt and overcome and have effective contingency plans instead of running the same failing model and pinning all hopes on one single transaction with no realistic backup plan should plan a be blocked by a judge....

🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

Theaveragejoker 01-17-2026 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by TAFsMatter (Post 3993068)
Yes, yes and the Sun will turn into a giant star and make Earth uninhabitable in a few billion years. That is also a mathematical certainty. Hopefully by then multiple starships would be pointed to multiple different stars...

Thing is people/companies/entites etc can adapt and overcome and have effective contingency plans instead of running the same failing model and pinning all hopes on one single transaction with no realistic backup plan should plan A be blocked by a judge....

is plan B a blue sweater?

TAFsMatter 01-17-2026 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by Theaveragejoker (Post 3993192)
is plan B a blue sweater?

Well it certainly isn't the 90% off base fare sales that are already too low, like the marketing emails and deals that keep appearing....

C17man 01-19-2026 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by TheCalmCaptain (Post 3987129)
In just a few hours it will be 2026 and I’m proud to announce, Kirby was wrong! We are still here and more resilient and determined than ever. Kirby tried everything to put us out of business from mirroring our à la cart business model, undercutting prices on our routes, obsessively bad mouthing us, failed attempt to purchase targeted assets and last but not least teaming up with JetBlue to drive our FLL yields down. Well, we’re still here!

I’m so proud of this “down with the ship” pilot group. 2026 is going to be a great year for us!

Below is the list of the relentless “Spirit is liquidating by the end of 2025” cheerleaders.

Sorry guys, you were wrong.

Noisecaceller
SSlow
Flyokish
Name user
Friendly pilot
Nry8
Busboi
StoneQOLdcrazy
LNAVVNAVPATH
DIRKDIGGLER9999
GPULLRSHRSAILPLANES
CINCODEMAYO
Fettywap
Putzin
FW90
Halon1211
Washout
Symbian simian
Jules Winfield
Bluejuice01
Washout
Bluespoon
BoeingBrat
TAFsMATTER
PowderKeg
Checkgear
flier320
Jac3d


Maybe wait another quarter? I think it’s close. Very close.

FriendlyPilot 01-19-2026 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by C17man (Post 3994206)
Maybe wait another quarter? I think it’s close. Very close.

Its been very quiet from the Company since the public ALPA letter as well as the Citadel non-response. Even with only a $2M a day burn that $50M from last month is already gone. December financials should be out pretty soon.


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