Government BAILOUT Spirit
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A termsheet had already been drawn up by the government and presented even before last Thursday's hearing. The creditors saw it for the first time on that day as it had been negotiated without them up to that point- This was before Trump's later comments about the DPA. Not sure what the hold-up is now, assuming the creditors and bondholders reach an agreement presumably the final hurdle is to figure out some other legal mechanism in which to push this through.
In any case, payroll will be due Wednesday and if liquidation is in the works then I'd imagine they'd want to pull the plug by then.
In any case, payroll will be due Wednesday and if liquidation is in the works then I'd imagine they'd want to pull the plug by then.
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A termsheet had already been drawn up by the government and presented even before last Thursday's hearing. The creditors saw it for the first time on that day as it had been negotiated without them up to that point- This was before Trump's later comments about the DPA. Not sure what the hold-up is now, assuming the creditors and bondholders reach an agreement presumably the final hurdle is to figure out some other legal mechanism in which to push this through.
In any case, payroll will be due Wednesday and if liquidation is in the works then I'd imagine they'd want to pull the plug by then.
In any case, payroll will be due Wednesday and if liquidation is in the works then I'd imagine they'd want to pull the plug by then.
https://x.com/krisvancleave/status/2...017481068?s=46
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And if the government blocks a buyout that may have saved them claiming that said airline is too important to get swallowed up, that airline would have a legitimate claim. The government blocking the transaction then watching that company fail is a dangerous precedent. Had the government not intervened, and then the company failed, they wouldn’t have a case…but that’s not what happened. You want to pretend that the government had nothing to do with this. They did. Keep pretending…nobody with more than a few brain cells or any memory whatsoever is fooled.
Jetblue themselves said spirit was their biggest threat. A spirit frontier merger wouldve destroyed jetblue. So jetblue attempted a hostile takeover.
A lcc absorbing a ulcc to eliminate a competitor
Blocked by the US court, not biden
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Such is the way the chips fall. If you want to have a beach session about the seniority system and lack of career portability in our chosen field, I’m right there with you.
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The merger was anti competitive, and got blocked.
Jetblue themselves said spirit was their biggest threat. A spirit frontier merger wouldve destroyed jetblue. So jetblue attempted a hostile takeover.
A lcc absorbing a ulcc to eliminate a competitor
Blocked by the US court, not biden
Jetblue themselves said spirit was their biggest threat. A spirit frontier merger wouldve destroyed jetblue. So jetblue attempted a hostile takeover.
A lcc absorbing a ulcc to eliminate a competitor
Blocked by the US court, not biden
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And everyone knows DPA aint it.
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The merger was anti competitive, and got blocked.
Jetblue themselves said spirit was their biggest threat. A spirit frontier merger wouldve destroyed jetblue. So jetblue attempted a hostile takeover.
A lcc absorbing a ulcc to eliminate a competitor
Blocked by the US court, not biden
Jetblue themselves said spirit was their biggest threat. A spirit frontier merger wouldve destroyed jetblue. So jetblue attempted a hostile takeover.
A lcc absorbing a ulcc to eliminate a competitor
Blocked by the US court, not biden
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Still negotiating trying to get bond holders on board
https://x.com/krisvancleave/status/2...017481068?s=46
https://x.com/krisvancleave/status/2...017481068?s=46
The bondholders are currently in first position in a liquidation. If they agree to the term sheet they'd get crammed down and the Government would get their $500M back before bondholders get a penny. Its pretty obvious that unsecured and revolving creditors are ok with it because they would be totally wiped out anyway. At least this gives them a shot if this ends up surviving. I wonder what would cause the bondholders to get nothing and just give up the chance to recoup their losses?
Especially if the Government is taking a 90% ownership stake.
OK I think I get it now. The bondholders will get their $450M DIP money back, but likely no chance to recoup any of their $2B in debt since the Government would own the airline. The only issue is that with the money going out the door this only gives them a few weeks to a few months of cash. So it kicks the can down the road.
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Here's the info "..two of the three Spirit creditor groups are on board with the government's offer of up to a $500M lifeline. The unsecured creditors and the revolving creditors are in. The bondholders have not yet committed."
The bondholders are currently in first position in a liquidation. If they agree to the term sheet they'd get crammed down and the Government would get their $500M back before bondholders get a penny. Its pretty obvious that unsecured and revolving creditors are ok with it because they would be totally wiped out anyway. At least this gives them a shot if this ends up surviving. I wonder what would cause the bondholders to get nothing and just give up the chance to recoup their losses?
Especially if the Government is taking a 90% ownership stake.
The bondholders are currently in first position in a liquidation. If they agree to the term sheet they'd get crammed down and the Government would get their $500M back before bondholders get a penny. Its pretty obvious that unsecured and revolving creditors are ok with it because they would be totally wiped out anyway. At least this gives them a shot if this ends up surviving. I wonder what would cause the bondholders to get nothing and just give up the chance to recoup their losses?
Especially if the Government is taking a 90% ownership stake.
Bondholders are led by Ken Griffin's Citadel and other hedge funds. I'd imagine in refurn for that govt stake they'd want a pretty chunk of that 500mil or some other favors.
I hear late yesterday night a Citadel owned Global 6000, N68KJ arrived in FLL.
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