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Old 04-29-2026 | 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BKbigfish
Who knows… all I know is you have 2000 ALPA brothers and sisters sitting in purgatory. AFA has risen to the occasion. ALPA apparently does not care. If you all don’t think we’ll remember this… we will.
If ALPA comes out in favor of a Spirit bailout, how do you think the other 95% of ALPA pilots will feel about it? Especially JetBlue and Frontier pilots?

But be sure to voice your displeasure at the next hiring workshop one of the big, bad legacy MECs puts together and funds.
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Old 04-29-2026 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by N152SY
paywalled - but if you click reader view on Safari you can read the article 😎 - the main hang up though..

A group of lenders, including hedge fund ​Citadel, is pushing back against proposed ​terms that could significantly erode the value ⁠of their claims and limit recoveries, ​the report said, adding that the group made ​a counterproposal in recent days that has gone unanswered.
Sorry to be the OA pilot chiming in, but this
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Old 04-29-2026 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
If ALPA comes out in favor of a Spirit bailout, how do you think the other 95% of ALPA pilots will feel about it? Especially JetBlue and Frontier pilots?

But be sure to voice your displeasure at the next hiring workshop one of the big, bad legacy MECs puts together and funds.
If there was going to be massive job loss at another alpa airline, I would expect them to come out in favor of that as well.
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Old 04-29-2026 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by emersonbiguns
Now that right there is funny, I don't care who you are.
Two types of people... one side loves a very polished speech, values intentions, and the results don't really matter nearly as much as long as the intentions were pure or correct. The other side pays attention to the final score and couldn't care less about speeches or stated intentions.

Sadly, many people would rather look/feel good and lose vs. not look/feel good but win. To each their own, I guess...
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Old 04-29-2026 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Please stop getting your “news” from podcasts. They don’t have any reputable sources to cite or peer reviews..
We are not debating the merits of left-wing vs. right-wing media outlets on APC. And especially not in this thread.

But there is such a thing as legit "New Media", and while I was definitely late to the party I did eventually figure it out.

The downside to that is little to no system of processes to ensure journalistic accuracy and integrity. But unfortunately most of established media abandoned such concepts years ago in favor of top-down driven agenda.

The upside is that *some* of the ndew media are doing the real, necessary journalism that the mainstream media largely abdicated.

You just need to exercise Caveat Emptor in choosing your providers (that's true for mainstream as well).
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Old 04-29-2026 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by LTJ9
If there was going to be massive job loss at another alpa airline, I would expect them to come out in favor of that as well.
Exactly…

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Old 04-29-2026 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777

The downside to that is little to no system of processes to ensure journalistic accuracy and integrity.
This is not true.
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Old 04-29-2026 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
This is not true.
Absolutely true, especially when the systems used to judged are biased themselves. I had a bunch of replies to debunk all your points with sources but it would never let me post without mod approval.

Get over it
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Old 04-29-2026 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AAdvocate
Absolutely true, especially when the systems used to judged are biased themselves.
Get over it
That's an emotional based opinion, not a fact.
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Old 04-29-2026 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
That's an emotional based opinion, not a fact.
Negative, not when you get to choose what metrics you count and what you ignore.

Get over it
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