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Originally Posted by dudeskibro (Post 1811267)

This LOA is a barometer to see what a bunch of pushovers this pilot group is for C2015. Let's send a message we aren't.

What I want you to take away from this: we are worth much much more than what we're compensated. We are tremendously experienced, and work hard for this company.

Agreeing to a concessionary LOA is the absolute last thing we should be doing.

I agree 100%. This will set the tone for negotiations for the next contract. Are we going to negotiate from a weak position or a strong position? A yes vote will tell management, in my opinion, that this pilot group is willing to give stuff up in the next contract.

I would like us going into negotiations strong and with a resolve to get a mature contract that in not concessionary in nature.

My understanding from the allegiant guys is that it's the southwest contract or they're walking out. Strike could be as early as March 1

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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 1811377)

My understanding from the allegiant guys is that it's the southwest contract or they're walking out. Strike could be as early as March 1

They've been released or believe they will be by then?

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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 1811287)

Supposed to get like 12"+. FML

Im sure you can handle every one of those inches. I have heard about you before..

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Originally Posted by FlyingOkra (Post 1811406)

They've been released or believe they will be by then?

Whatever needed to be done with the mediator to get released is done from what my friend is telling me. They are just waiting for an answer (not sure a timeline on that). If they come back with the ok then it's 30 day clock. He said they would love for it to be march first (their highest block month) but will probably after that.

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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 1811417)

Cool, I hadn't heard anything since their 465-8 Vote in Favor of a Strike. That speaks pretty loudly to management.

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Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1811407)

Im sure you can handle every one of those inches. I have heard about you before..

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww

On a less perverted note
If anyone's in Boston Tuesday, let me know. There is no holdover time for blizzards, I don't think I'm going anywhere :)

If they are getting that much snow Joey meatballs will need a snorkel to breathe

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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 1811449)

If they are getting that much snow Joey meatballs will need a snorkel to breathe

Hahahha. I just checked the Intellicast hourly forecast, it says BLIZZARD, for about 12hrs straight, lol

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Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1810970)

The main reason why the company wants this LOA is because pilots will have to do their DL on their off time, not on company time.

144 aircraft by 2021, say 2500 pilots. 2 days of DL not on duty vs 2 days of DL in a crew room, on duty, is 5000 days a year of lost productivity from your workforce where we are not moving planes and someone needs to move those planes.

Say the average pilot works 180 days of duty a year 5000/180= 28 pilots a year. So my math shows they need 28 pilots less a year just on savings for us doing it off the clock. This is a minimum, doesn't account for any conflict drops of any kind.

28 pilots will be 1st year FO pay pilots. Even on guarantee thats a million a year in savings just on wages, not counting healthcare, social security taxes, training, etc.

This needs to be printed out and left in every cockpit for every pilot to read. This needs to be included in the next FAQ, JL mentioned. Every time someone gets sidetracked with some superfluous part of the TA, this point needs to be reiterated.