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07-26-2012 | 08:50 AM

#4331

gearcrankr

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Originally Posted by Hugh Betcha

Congrats Beech,

I've never flown with you and this is not directed at you.

I take it you've been given a class date that's been moved up. The training is first class. If you've been flying 121 in any capacity you'll have a blast. Really a fun and first class experience.

New Hire Unsolicited Advice:

Stop that Vertical Speed RJ crap and just push the frikin' button. Then the other button right away. Then pull back a little when you see the other guy wince and don't heat the brakes up.

Ignore what you've been taught in training and don't select Autobrakes Low every landing because that worked in the Sim and OE . Try Manual brakes and full reverse. Let it roll out to the next high speed.

No Drama.

Let the airplane manage the profile. After a while... (when your employee number gets higher than the Dow Jones Average) hand flying a vertical speed constant angle of descent from 380 to 6000 (for the pax comfort) won't seem so important to you to prove you are an aviator.

We get you RJ guys are all awesome stud jet pilots. Younger and studlier than us.

PS

You will never be as good a stick as you used to be.

Ever.

Welcome Aboard!

Nice post Hugh. Any room over there for a steam gauge three holer type??? I still have an analog brain.

07-26-2012 | 11:17 AM

#4332

beech_nut

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It was my recurrent that got moved up. Sorry if I was unclear. No complaints of course. I love to see all the hiring. I'm moving up faster than I could have hoped for or imagined.

07-26-2012 | 12:40 PM

#4333

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From: 319/320/321...whatever it takes.

[QUOTE=Hugh Betcha;1235411]
Let the airplane manage the profile. After a while... (when your employee number gets higher than the Dow Jones Average) hand flying a vertical speed constant angle of descent from 380 to 6000 (for the pax comfort) won't seem so important to you to prove you are an aviator.
[QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by Normann

I especially love the DES mode when you start slightly above profile and the airplane immediately makes a hard nose over until the top of the speed bracket, followed by a hard pull up when it captures the profile seconds later. It is really useful when you haul peeps to MCO. It prepares them for the roller coasters. Another application is going to LAS from say ORD when the galley is sold out and we have a handful of drunks. They love to start the Vegas party early, puking on short final comes natural.

VS gives you the best ride and the best prediction about level off. I would not use it when flying a complex arrival with many step downs or when there are other distracting factors like fatigue. But it is by far the best mode to recapture the profile then reengage DES unless you are really high. It is more work for sure. But lately with the 320 software I have seen so many anomalies that I must watch DES mode like a hawk. You just have to.

I think both ways are appropriate for different situations. Norm, you zeroed in on several good exeptions.

New guys: You'll be fine as long as you watch what the airplane is doing (or not doing). It takes forever to start a climb or descent using 'managed'. Using vertical speed is fine unless you forget about it on the climb and get slow. Never stop being a pilot. However you are not flying an 'airplane' as such. You are flying a computer with wings, and sometimes it has a hard time figuring out top of descent, and generally has a hard time figuring out crossing restrictions if you mess with the speed in any way. Usually it is when the computer waits to start optimal descent, and then during descent ATC ask for a different speed. It screws Fifi up something terrible. ALways use your 3 to 1 rule of thumb and keep ahead of the comput.... I mean airplane, and hand fly every once in a while when the minimums are high enough that even captains feel comfortable with it. Enjoy!

07-26-2012 | 12:52 PM

#4334

gatorbird

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Originally Posted by Normann

I do agree about managing the brakes. Just don't tell the FAA or a check airman that you don't plan on breaking immediately after touchdown. Most will not like that at all.

Actually untrue. Most instructors and check airman believe that manual brakes and full reverse have their place in our operation, especially in BOG and SJO with a tailwind on final in a 320 with no brake fans. It's all part of a de-mystifying movement with the 320; the Carlson days of micromanagement are gone. You're typed and qualified and smart enough to decide on your own how you would like to get rid of your energy.