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Old 12-01-2013, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod View Post
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Old 12-01-2013, 04:09 PM
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There is something magical about a new hire (instructor) giving you a PC or line check, only at spirit., priceless.
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Old 12-01-2013, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
There is something magical about a new hire (instructor) giving you a PC or line check, only at spirit., priceless.
No new hire gives you a PC or a line check. Current captains at the the airline are the only guys qualified to check; the most junior doing so has around 6 years with the company. Check your facts.
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorbird View Post
No new hire gives you a PC or a line check. Current captains at the the airline are the only guys qualified to check; the most junior doing so has around 6 years with the company. Check your facts.
Thanks gator, very prompt of you, I was being sarcastic ...thanks for reminding me of checking my facts, so., got it. But you are correct, no new hires doing checks or line checks...but we do have or did have newbies go to the training dept, perhaps not checking but training...don't we?
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NedsKid View Post
100% in-house. That said, all 'classroom' instruction is done by non-seniority list Spirit employees who have no airline flying or actual Airbus flight experience. A professional ground instructor does our re-current. We hire Embry Riddle grads to teach new-hire in-doc and systems (they teach for 2 years, then get to interview for a Spirit pilot position). All flight training device and sims are taught by line pilots pilots on the seniority list, and all orals and check-rides are done by seniority list pilots who fly the line.
I've heard some people getting on the line prior to their 2 years being up due to staffing need. And how's the teaching going? Call me crazy but how can a non typed/never flown a jet person teach airbus systems effectively? Not knocking it just wondering if it's actually working... I learn best by examples and something tels me if they haven't flown it's gonna be a lot of "check page 43 for that answer."
 
Old 12-01-2013, 06:17 PM
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FSI/CAE/et al do that all the time - teach having never flown the plane and it works fine there.
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Old 12-01-2013, 06:50 PM
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The USAF assigns guys straight out of pilot training right back to be instructors. Not a true never-flown-the-jet kind of instructor, but very inexperienced. With the proper training and the right individual, many of these first assignment IPs are better instructors than many of their more experienced companions. Often significantly so.
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Old 12-01-2013, 06:53 PM
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Agreed. It's quite common. In addition to FSI/CAE, I know United, American, and Frontier all have ground instructors that aren't/ were never line pilots.
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Old 12-01-2013, 06:58 PM
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Wasn't talking about ground instruction, but who cares!! It's all the same anyway.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
Thanks gator, very prompt of you, I was being sarcastic ...thanks for reminding me of checking my facts, so., got it. But you are correct, no new hires doing checks or line checks...but we do have or did have newbies go to the training dept, perhaps not checking but training...don't we?
Sorry, didn't see the little "sarcastic" emoticon used...hard to see sarcasm through an iPad. The training dept has hired a couple of guys inside of a year with the company in the past (both with extensive training experience prior to); probably won't happen again as the bosses do see the benefit of at least a year on the property to acclimate to the airplane, operation, airports served and culture.

The greatest attention is given to hiring the right person/personality, regardless of longevity, seat or base. Although it has openly been said they'd prefer a FLL-based pilot, they will hire the right guy/gal outside of the mother base. This benefits all involved; the feedback the company gets (and on this forum) is that they're getting it right.

As for the promptness of my reply- sorry, I'll try to wait a little longer if you prefer. I usually save my APC reading for the john and your reply came right after dinner.

Now if you'll all excuse me, I've got to find my kneepads so I can loan them out to Ramrod and A320Flyer. Who's first?
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