Spirit QOL?
01-28-2013, 05:49 PM
#61
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Position: A320 CA
Posts: 549
Originally Posted by NJGov
Is that still true? I flew with a guy today who said that the last time he picked up a day trip over a TX2 on his schedule that he wasn't paid for it above guarantee.
I don't see the conflicts often enough to know any better. Maybe there's another reason why he didn't get paid?
I don't see the conflicts often enough to know any better. Maybe there's another reason why he didn't get paid?
01-28-2013, 05:52 PM
#62
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Originally Posted by skybolt
I wish, but recent experience says not. I recently finished my vacation trip (ran out of dollars) a couple of days before my vacation block ended. I used FLiCa for a trip add on the last day of the block and was denied because I was still on vacation.
I can't find a contractual prohibition, but it's been locked out for some reason.
I can't find a contractual prohibition, but it's been locked out for some reason.
07-18-2013, 09:16 AM
#64
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Posts: 23
Dan,
Intimate knowledge of the Spirit CBA is not going to help you at the Job Fair. I would suggest you spend your time researching the corporate structure, financials, fleet composition and growth plans, along with pilot domiciles, and route structure just to name a few.
At the Job Fair you will have 2-3 minutes to impress the NK folks. You will probably be asked Why do you want to work here? If you respond with contractual details, they will probably not be impressed.
If you have a specific question about our contract, I am sure someone will be happy to respond.
Good luck at the Job Fair and hopefully you score an interview.
Intimate knowledge of the Spirit CBA is not going to help you at the Job Fair. I would suggest you spend your time researching the corporate structure, financials, fleet composition and growth plans, along with pilot domiciles, and route structure just to name a few.
At the Job Fair you will have 2-3 minutes to impress the NK folks. You will probably be asked Why do you want to work here? If you respond with contractual details, they will probably not be impressed.
If you have a specific question about our contract, I am sure someone will be happy to respond.
Good luck at the Job Fair and hopefully you score an interview.
07-18-2013, 09:20 AM
#65
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Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: pa-44 right
Posts: 13
Originally Posted by Blue Side Up
Dan,
Intimate knowledge of the Spirit CBA is not going to help you at the Job Fair. I would suggest you spend your time researching the corporate structure, financials, fleet composition and growth plans, along with pilot domiciles, and route structure just to name a few.
At the Job Fair you will have 2-3 minutes to impress the NK folks. You will probably be asked Why do you want to work here? If you respond with contractual details, they will probably not be impressed.
If you have a specific question about our contract, I am sure someone will be happy to respond.
Good luck at the Job Fair and hopefully you score an interview.
Intimate knowledge of the Spirit CBA is not going to help you at the Job Fair. I would suggest you spend your time researching the corporate structure, financials, fleet composition and growth plans, along with pilot domiciles, and route structure just to name a few.
At the Job Fair you will have 2-3 minutes to impress the NK folks. You will probably be asked Why do you want to work here? If you respond with contractual details, they will probably not be impressed.
If you have a specific question about our contract, I am sure someone will be happy to respond.
Good luck at the Job Fair and hopefully you score an interview.
I was just trying to see what the contract was like that's all. Thanks!
07-19-2013, 06:22 AM
#66
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 758
Since this is a Spirit QOL thread: Contract highlights in no particular order.
3. Pay, see the pay section of APC - new hires receive $1750 per month.
4. Min Guarantees, 72 hours per month line holder and reserve - 4.5 hrs per duty period (multi day trips) - 4 hrs per duty pd (single duty period trips) - 4.2/1 duty rig - $2.15 or so per diem
8. 100% Dead head pay
12. Hours of service: the usual - no schedules built with less than ten hours off in base, 9 actual - 9 hours out of base - a full calender day in domicile vs 24/7 anywhere - no scheduled days over 14 hrs, extendable to 16 - no scheduled duty over 11.5hrs for duty periods that include any of the time between 0100 to 0400 domicile time, extendable to a max of 12.5 hours - min of 13 days off per monthly bid period - no circadian rhythm protections, i.e. finish day one at midnight get 24 hours off and start the next day at midnight.
14. Sick leave. 4 hours per month accrual
25. Scheduling. Line bidding, No pref bid - all lines built with all day off blocks of four or more (no one on one off three on three off etc) -
month to month conflict can not be more than six days total, all else is dropped - No junior manning, [(they have to call you on your designated contact number vs jetway or ACARS junior manning you) (except 200% pay exists for being junior manned which creates huge intra pilot group conflicts)] - industry leading commuter clause (non jeopardy)
26. General. pilots don't do anything but pilot (and monitor fueling
)
27. Insurance. up in the air due to Affordable Healthcare Act, but generally a great deal compared to say, JetBlue.
28. Retirement. None other than a 8% 401K match.
3. Pay, see the pay section of APC - new hires receive $1750 per month.
4. Min Guarantees, 72 hours per month line holder and reserve - 4.5 hrs per duty period (multi day trips) - 4 hrs per duty pd (single duty period trips) - 4.2/1 duty rig - $2.15 or so per diem
8. 100% Dead head pay
12. Hours of service: the usual - no schedules built with less than ten hours off in base, 9 actual - 9 hours out of base - a full calender day in domicile vs 24/7 anywhere - no scheduled days over 14 hrs, extendable to 16 - no scheduled duty over 11.5hrs for duty periods that include any of the time between 0100 to 0400 domicile time, extendable to a max of 12.5 hours - min of 13 days off per monthly bid period - no circadian rhythm protections, i.e. finish day one at midnight get 24 hours off and start the next day at midnight.
14. Sick leave. 4 hours per month accrual
25. Scheduling. Line bidding, No pref bid - all lines built with all day off blocks of four or more (no one on one off three on three off etc) -
month to month conflict can not be more than six days total, all else is dropped - No junior manning, [(they have to call you on your designated contact number vs jetway or ACARS junior manning you) (except 200% pay exists for being junior manned which creates huge intra pilot group conflicts)] - industry leading commuter clause (non jeopardy)
26. General. pilots don't do anything but pilot (and monitor fueling
)27. Insurance. up in the air due to Affordable Healthcare Act, but generally a great deal compared to say, JetBlue.
28. Retirement. None other than a 8% 401K match.
07-19-2013, 09:43 AM
#67
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: A320 F.O.
Posts: 176
Originally Posted by skybolt
Since this is a Spirit QOL thread: Contract highlights in no particular order.
3. Pay, see the pay section of APC - new hires receive $1750 per month.
4. Min Guarantees, 72 hours per month line holder and reserve - 4.5 hrs per duty period (multi day trips) - 4 hrs per duty pd (single duty period trips) - 4.2/1 duty rig - $2.15 or so per diem
8. 100% Dead head pay
12. Hours of service: the usual - no schedules built with less than ten hours off in base, 9 actual - 9 hours out of base - a full calender day in domicile vs 24/7 anywhere - no scheduled days over 14 hrs, extendable to 16 - no scheduled duty over 11.5hrs for duty periods that include any of the time between 0100 to 0400 domicile time, extendable to a max of 12.5 hours - min of 13 days off per monthly bid period - no circadian rhythm protections, i.e. finish day one at midnight get 24 hours off and start the next day at midnight.
14. Sick leave. 4 hours per month accrual
25. Scheduling. Line bidding, No pref bid - all lines built with all day off blocks of four or more (no one on one off three on three off etc) -
month to month conflict can not be more than six days total, all else is dropped - No junior manning, [(they have to call you on your designated contact number vs jetway or ACARS junior manning you) (except 200% pay exists for being junior manned which creates huge intra pilot group conflicts)] - industry leading commuter clause (non jeopardy)
26. General. pilots don't do anything but pilot (and monitor fueling )
27. Insurance. up in the air due to Affordable Healthcare Act, but generally a great deal compared to say, JetBlue.
28. Retirement. None other than a 8% 401K match.
3. Pay, see the pay section of APC - new hires receive $1750 per month.
4. Min Guarantees, 72 hours per month line holder and reserve - 4.5 hrs per duty period (multi day trips) - 4 hrs per duty pd (single duty period trips) - 4.2/1 duty rig - $2.15 or so per diem
8. 100% Dead head pay
12. Hours of service: the usual - no schedules built with less than ten hours off in base, 9 actual - 9 hours out of base - a full calender day in domicile vs 24/7 anywhere - no scheduled days over 14 hrs, extendable to 16 - no scheduled duty over 11.5hrs for duty periods that include any of the time between 0100 to 0400 domicile time, extendable to a max of 12.5 hours - min of 13 days off per monthly bid period - no circadian rhythm protections, i.e. finish day one at midnight get 24 hours off and start the next day at midnight.
14. Sick leave. 4 hours per month accrual
25. Scheduling. Line bidding, No pref bid - all lines built with all day off blocks of four or more (no one on one off three on three off etc) -
month to month conflict can not be more than six days total, all else is dropped - No junior manning, [(they have to call you on your designated contact number vs jetway or ACARS junior manning you) (except 200% pay exists for being junior manned which creates huge intra pilot group conflicts)] - industry leading commuter clause (non jeopardy)
26. General. pilots don't do anything but pilot (and monitor fueling
)27. Insurance. up in the air due to Affordable Healthcare Act, but generally a great deal compared to say, JetBlue.
28. Retirement. None other than a 8% 401K match.
07-19-2013, 08:05 PM
#69
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 758
Originally Posted by vandypilot
How can you say insurance is up in the air due to obamacare when its part of our contract?
Whatever. If you've not been paying attention, leading conservative commentators have stated that the Affordable Healtcare Act is incompatible with private healthcare. I made that statement based on numerous pundit reports that under the Affordable Healthcare Act, private insurance as we know it will eventually (sooner than later) cease to exist. Regardless of the contract language, if insurance that fits our contract is not available, I predict that the NMB and or other courts will allow our language to die. Finally, the contract is amendable in two years, I doubt that we will be able to maintain the current policy language without making serious concessions in other areas. As Doug always says, what are you willing to give up to get this (good insurance)?
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