Spirit of NKS, Part II
12-19-2015 | 07:37 AM
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12-19-2015 | 08:18 AM
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Perhaps an informal poll of spirit pilots that updated legacy apps since the last numbers came out. 1 here
12-19-2015 | 08:30 AM
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Gotta read better, ramrod! The text you quoted says "all pilots." Never mentions anything about flight attendants, or anyone else for that matter. My wife gets 150sh of her company stock per year--as a part-timer. When the company does well (as it is now), it becomes a larger and larger portion of her total compensation. The beauty of stock grants vs stock options? If the company doesn't do well enough, many options expire worthless. With grants, you own the underlying stock regardless, it just might not be as valuable. Hell, work this into the retirement equation. Why just 10% DC? Why not 10% DC + 150sh stock grant.
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The flight attendants have a ME TOO clause pertaining to any stock plan we negotiate. Therefore we would be negotiating stock for 1300+ pilots AND a few thousand flight attendants. Gets a little more expensive at that point, and I'd rather see the gains on the pilot side.
12-19-2015 | 08:33 AM
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Hang on. A lot of people on this thread are on multiple committees and I/we also support our N/C, MEC etc. I just simply disagree with the idea that they can't fix the slope because it's too costly. One can disagree and still support the N/C. I, along with a few other pilots wrote a letter to our REPS, MEC and N/C last night. We don't just complain, we are trying to take some action.
12-19-2015 | 10:37 AM
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I read just fine, thank you!
The flight attendants have a ME TOO clause pertaining to any stock plan we negotiate. Therefore we would be negotiating stock for 1300+ pilots AND a few thousand flight attendants. Gets a little more expensive at that point, and I'd rather see the gains on the pilot side.
The flight attendants have a ME TOO clause pertaining to any stock plan we negotiate. Therefore we would be negotiating stock for 1300+ pilots AND a few thousand flight attendants. Gets a little more expensive at that point, and I'd rather see the gains on the pilot side.
Good point that was unknown to me. Thanks, ramrod! Just trying to offer up some brainstorming ideas.
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12-19-2015 | 11:45 AM
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No, they didn't mis-speak. You just didn't read the proposal carefully enough. It tops out at year 13, I assume the additional two years are there for reference only as compared to our current CBA.
Just like gonyon spouting about how the NC will do everything according to their own desires. When, in fact, they said at least a dozen times in yesterday's call that the results of the survey will direct their steps going forward. If they wanted to sell this turd of a 'TA' and get their money for themselves at the top-end they could have easily done so.
I'm with the above poster who says to let them work. If you don't like something, talk to your reps. Include the NC as a cc on your email.
If you really feel it's necessarily, then vote to replace your reps. How about we start with James?
Just like gonyon spouting about how the NC will do everything according to their own desires. When, in fact, they said at least a dozen times in yesterday's call that the results of the survey will direct their steps going forward. If they wanted to sell this turd of a 'TA' and get their money for themselves at the top-end they could have easily done so.
I'm with the above poster who says to let them work. If you don't like something, talk to your reps. Include the NC as a cc on your email.
If you really feel it's necessarily, then vote to replace your reps. How about we start with James?
12-19-2015 | 11:48 AM
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