Spirit of NKS, Part II
10-23-2015 | 05:33 PM
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This is a pro MEC ratify statement. You called it important, and said for them to go ahead and make that tough decision because thats what their position entails.
I would never have said 'go ahead if they think it's important' if I was against it. I would have said "They better not be thinking about MEC ratify" if it was me. If that was not your intent, then I misread your post.
For the record, what do you think about MEC ratify? Are you for or against it?
I would never have said 'go ahead if they think it's important' if I was against it. I would have said "They better not be thinking about MEC ratify" if it was me. If that was not your intent, then I misread your post.
For the record, what do you think about MEC ratify? Are you for or against it?
Read it again, and include the sentence that followed in your consideration. Also, my comment was in response to someone else's point that the MEC might well try to tell us that we had only a short window of opportunity to accept the deal. To which I said "Originally Posted by*skybolt*
Or what? Be left in "no mans land"?*
If it's that important, let them MEC ratify. They all wanted, fought for, the positions of responsibility, let them have the cojones to make the tough decision.
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That my friend is a challenge to the "leadership" to step up to the plate if they consider it necessary. Last time, they hid behind our skirts. Ask Ramrod for specific details, the short story is that we were sent back to work after our strike without a ratified TA, and essentially told that we had to accept their deal. They gave us no choice, then hid behind the fact that 74% of the pilots voted yes.
10-23-2015 | 08:12 PM
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You would have said...... That's nice, but you are you, and I'm not you.
Read it again, and include the sentence that followed in your consideration. Also, my comment was in response to someone else's point that the MEC might well try to tell us that we had only a short window of opportunity to accept the deal. To which I said "Originally Posted by*skybolt*
Or what? Be left in "no mans land"?*
If it's that important, let them MEC ratify. They all wanted, fought for, the positions of responsibility, let them have the cojones to make the tough decision.
"
That my friend is a challenge to the "leadership" to step up to the plate if they consider it necessary. Last time, they hid behind our skirts. Ask Ramrod for specific details, the short story is that we were sent back to work after our strike without a ratified TA, and essentially told that we had to accept their deal. They gave us no choice, then hid behind the fact that 74% of the pilots voted yes.
Read it again, and include the sentence that followed in your consideration. Also, my comment was in response to someone else's point that the MEC might well try to tell us that we had only a short window of opportunity to accept the deal. To which I said "Originally Posted by*skybolt*
Or what? Be left in "no mans land"?*
If it's that important, let them MEC ratify. They all wanted, fought for, the positions of responsibility, let them have the cojones to make the tough decision.
"
That my friend is a challenge to the "leadership" to step up to the plate if they consider it necessary. Last time, they hid behind our skirts. Ask Ramrod for specific details, the short story is that we were sent back to work after our strike without a ratified TA, and essentially told that we had to accept their deal. They gave us no choice, then hid behind the fact that 74% of the pilots voted yes.
I'm not well versed in this part of collective bargaining, maybe you can shed some light on this.
10-24-2015 | 06:43 AM
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Just throwing this out there, but when a pilot group works under the RLA doesn't said group HAVE to return to work if a TA is reach with the company? I can't imagine where the RLA would have it written where a pilot group gets to go through the "normal'' steps of ratification, ie: road shows et al before returning back to work.
I'm not well versed in this part of collective bargaining, maybe you can shed some light on this.
I'm not well versed in this part of collective bargaining, maybe you can shed some light on this.
10-24-2015 | 07:31 AM
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Does anyone know if we are pay protected for trips dropped by the company to accommodate our 2 day break between base transfer? Section 6 says we get the break but not whether we still get paid for that trip.
10-24-2015 | 07:47 AM
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No pay for that
10-24-2015 | 07:52 AM
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Yup totally forgot about that, thank you for the explanation and example!
10-24-2015 | 08:05 AM
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Does anyone know where the setting to have the iPad stop harassing me everyday about the new software updates. There has to be a way to turn it off. With the new iOS every time it turns on for the day it asks to be updated and since we can't until we are told to, I'd hate to accidentally do it.
10-24-2015 | 08:20 AM
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Does anyone know where the setting to have the iPad stop harassing me everyday about the new software updates. There has to be a way to turn it off. With the new iOS every time it turns on for the day it asks to be updated and since we can't until we are told to, I'd hate to accidentally do it.
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