Trust me, the NC is not going for any type of arbitration. Perhaps you heard they may be trying to get into federal mediation?

 

I'm hoping reps just misspoke but two seperation reps clearly said "Arbitration"

 

I'm one of the five Local77 pilots working (within the system at the present) to gain a Local for each base. We believe that "Local" means local.

We also are trying work in the best interests of the pilot group while avoiding the division caused by a recall.

Rather than imply that a recall might be necessary, please join us in increasing the amount of representatives on the Master Council. If you don't have access to the petition, PM me and I'll send it to you.

 

Agreed. It's sad how many fail to understand that words mean things. But, Sadly, I've heard the same mistake be made by current unionists that should know better.

 

For someone not as schooled in the union ways, can someone give a dumbed down difference between what we're talking about here?

 

Arbitration, in the case is binding while mediation is negotiation aided by an NMB member and is a required step for getting a release. Both sides have to agree to arbitration, which will never happen. Even if it did, you may end up with near parity pay, but you would most surely loose 5 days off / line bidding, and with that, transition.

 

When two sides in a collective bargaining situation get to a point where meaningful progress is no longer being made, either side may request assistance from the NMB in the form of mediated negotiations. A federal mediator will be assigned to the property, and his/her job will be to get an agreement between the parties. Arbitration, on the other hand, occurs when Both sides agree to make their case to an arbitrator who will make a legally binding decision on which offer (labor or management) will be the new contract. A proffer of arbitration must be accepted by both parties, if it isn't the mediator can either continue with the mediated negotiation, send everybody home for an indeterminate amount of time (aka putting negotiations on ice), or release the parties to self help (strike, lockout, imposition of company terms).

Union reps SHOULD know the difference between the two processes.

 

Anybody else notice the "recent" trend of double deadheads, and OAL deadheading for out of base guys. I've seen 3 day trips built where they have day one double deadhead, day 2 flying one or two legs and double deadheading back to base on day 3. You really can't get more inefficient than that.

Who the **** is in charge of scheduling? We are run like a very poorly run regional. ***

 

I am a Jan 4 new hire. Ipad issued is just fine. Plenty of memory. The only way you run out of memory is if you download all the Foreflight maps.

 

Thanks guys! That clears it up quite a bit and makes it understandable why there may be confusion over improperly used terms.