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Old 08-31-2016 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
The real money for the legacies is in international flying. ONE first class $17,000 ticket is as much income as 378 Spirit passengers at $44.99 a piece. And while I would love to make United rates and United retirement, in the long run the Spirit model can't support that. Spirit won't be able to survive in 15 years if it's paying out Legacy wages to its employees simply because it doesn't have Legacy size pockets. I'm all for getting a big increase in the next contract but there has to be a level of realism to it.
Wow. You're an idiot
Old 08-31-2016 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
I wonder how bottom tier our ceo/cfo/coo pay is, and what their peer group is.
Robert Fornaro's peer group per the 2015 10K.

American
United
Delta
Alaskan
Hawaiian
JetBlue
Virgin America
Allegiant
Republic
Skywest
Old 08-31-2016 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by illtake2
Yes and no, there is only so much money the company makes. You can't sell our product for the same price as a legacy. I agree we are worth more but for us to sit here and pretend we are business analyst is illusional.


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Why don't you go ahead and ask the NC what our CASM is, what our CASM would be if they gave us southwest's TA or united current contract, then ask them what that equates to in dollars.

The answer will prove that spirit can more than afford to pay it and still be wildly profitable. I urge you to get this information instead of going off of what you are conditioned by management to think.
Old 08-31-2016 | 04:39 PM
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Southwest also falls under the umbrella of 600+ airplane legacy airline.
Old 08-31-2016 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Southwest also falls under the umbrella of 600+ airplane legacy airline.


Wow no way. Really?


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Old 08-31-2016 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
The real money for the legacies is in international flying. ONE first class $17,000 ticket is as much income as 378 Spirit passengers at $44.99 a piece. And while I would love to make United rates and United retirement, in the long run the Spirit model can't support that. Spirit won't be able to survive in 15 years if it's paying out Legacy wages to its employees simply because it doesn't have Legacy size pockets. I'm all for getting a big increase in the next contract but there has to be a level of realism to it.
Sorry, but this is nonsense. Our pay is just a small piece of the expenses of the airline. If you analyze the relationship you are describing a little more in debt, you will see how flawed this way of thinking is. But don't feel bad, you are not the only one who has the same false impression.
Old 08-31-2016 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Southwest also falls under the umbrella of 600+ airplane legacy airline.

What are you...a Size Queen? Size doesn't matter (I keep telling myself). It's all about return-on-investment and margins. Just ask my wife.
Old 08-31-2016 | 05:04 PM
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Why do you guys keep responding to one of Jyris logins or one of his hired minions? Not worth feeding the troll.
Old 08-31-2016 | 05:12 PM
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United 2015 Revenue $37.86 billion divided by 12505 pilots = $302,759
Spirit 2015 Revenue 2.14 billion divided by 1400 pilots = $1,528,571
Old 08-31-2016 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo 665
Straight up imbecile and not know it.
Why don't you "genius you" explain this to all of us then..
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