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Spirit of NKS, Part II

Old 10-06-2016 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MooseJaw
Stand strong,


NO WAIVERS, NO FAVORS.


Create a list of anyone who goes outside the bounds of the contract to help these ungrateful, scumbag management
What is something you consider outside the contract that guys are doing?
Old 10-06-2016 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by IAJETCAPT
What is something you consider outside the contract that guys are doing?
Where do I begin?

Guys making special deals with scheduling. Just had a an F/O buddy text me that he is delayed (he's deadheading) because they had no F/O and a LCA was calling scheduling to see if he could work the flight.

Had a CA I was talking with who they called at 3:30am (his call out was 3:00am) so they could "release him" into rest and take a later repo for JRM pay. Not only is that a contract violation it's ******* FAA Violation

Disgraceful, shameful stuff like that
Old 10-06-2016 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MooseJaw
Where do I begin?

Guys making special deals with scheduling. Just had a an F/O buddy text me that he is delayed (he's deadheading) because they had no F/O and a LCA was calling scheduling to see if he could work the flight.

Disgraceful, shameful stuff like that
Roger... Just wondering what guys are getting offered... I'm on the first day of a 4 day with all my flights cancelled... No contact with scheduling and can't get a rls... called the C pilot and hang tight might be a possibility of being reassigned ..my reservation ends in a couple hrs and I am leaving...f this
Old 10-06-2016 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by IAJETCAPT
Roger... Just wondering what guys are getting offered... I'm on the first day of a 4 day with all my flights cancelled... No contact with scheduling and can't get a rls... called the C pilot and hang tight might be a possibility of being reassigned ..my reservation ends in a couple hrs and I am leaving...f this
Be safe and just leave. The likelihood of them having any clue where crew members are, is slim
Old 10-06-2016 | 09:14 AM
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Anyone flying to FL tomorrow better get a hotel confirmation # and then call to make sure they have power... This place will strand your A without a place to stay ...
Old 10-06-2016 | 09:38 AM
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So what kind of protections do we have being on reserve and being rescheduled? I am on R13 this month and was supposed to finish my last day RAP at 3am on the 7th. I was assigned a 2 day pairing on the 5th that finished back in on the 6th in the morning. Due to the hurricane I was rescheduled and now will finish back in FLL on the 7th around 6pm. According to the contract, reserves can go 4 hours past their RAP on the last day. (7am in my case) I never agreed with scheduling to adjust my schedule to go past my RAP, it was just placed on my schedule. Of course I was never notified by scheduling nor did I self notify. My question however is when I go past the 4 hours on my last day RAP, is that now considered working on a day off and will credit above my guarantee?
Old 10-06-2016 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by IAJETCAPT
Roger... Just wondering what guys are getting offered... I'm on the first day of a 4 day with all my flights cancelled... No contact with scheduling and can't get a rls... called the C pilot and hang tight might be a possibility of being reassigned ..my reservation ends in a couple hrs and I am leaving...f this
This shouldn't surprise any of us. They had days to prepare, yet like negotiations, they are completely unprepared.
Do like I did, just head out and go home. They know how to get ahold of you.
The company screws over pax all the time during wx events, why shouldn't we be able to pull out and say to the company it was a natural disaster and I did what made me feel the most safe.
Old 10-06-2016 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by IAJETCAPT
What is something you consider outside the contract that guys are doing?
More than 2 JRM's in any month or more than 5 in any calendar year. If the company offers you more than that, they are outside the contract. If you accept more than that, you are outside the contract.

No Quid No Go!

High Fives!
Old 10-06-2016 | 10:15 AM
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Way to go pilots! RR says thanks to all those going above and beyond to help the company out, while they pi$$ all over us and our negotiations! High Five!!
Old 10-06-2016 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by GetReal
More than 2 JRM's in any month or more than 5 in any calendar year. If the company offers you more than that, they are outside the contract. If you accept more than that, you are outside the contract.

No Quid No Go!

High Fives!
Nobody should be interested in quid. We've been shown that equals nothing in the past. Goodwill in negotiations? Then why are we the only ones without a contract? No contract, no go.
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