Spirit of NKS, Part III
01-29-2017, 08:22 PM
#1011
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Position: A320
Posts: 98
Originally Posted by dfwflyboy
Finally getting rid of those 2 old 321s so 15 net aircraft. 5 by May. Hope we lose more than we hire.
Contract 2020!
01-29-2017, 09:39 PM
#1012
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 194
Originally Posted by paidpnuts
it seems that the company is just giving us even more reasons to want to leave other than contract BS.
Funny story. Had a legacy pilot show up on my last job RJ jumpseat in PLAID GOLF SHORTS. True story.
01-30-2017, 02:45 AM
#1013
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: A320 Right
Posts: 378
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
· CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS – We are committed to reaching a Contract that recognizes the contribution of our pilots to the company’s success, while maintaining our competitive cost structure, allowing us to continue to grow
It is verifiable from ALPA financial analysis that an industry "standard" contract would allow them to reach this goal.
Further, if it weren't true, we are not here to subsidize and finance the growth of the airline.
The next paragraph was about how on/time is the most important thing to them.
It is verifiable from ALPA financial analysis that an industry "standard" contract would allow them to reach this goal.
Further, if it weren't true, we are not here to subsidize and finance the growth of the airline.
The next paragraph was about how on/time is the most important thing to them.
I am operating on the assumption that every new contract signed has moved the 'standard' average up and the union will take this into account when this section is finally bargained.
Last I heard something about their position on this was almost a year ago.
I can't imagine they'd be dumb enough to not throw DA UA WN and whoever else got a 20%+ raise in the last year into managements face, but you can't be too sure.
01-30-2017, 04:51 AM
#1014
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Position: A320's
Posts: 169
Originally Posted by Gunga Din
Can anyone here please verify the union has acknowledged the 'industry standard' has risen significantly since we started this process?
I am operating on the assumption that every new contract signed has moved the 'standard' average up and the union will take this into account when this section is finally bargained.
Last I heard something about their position on this was almost a year ago.
I can't imagine they'd be dumb enough to not throw DA UA WN and whoever else got a 20%+ raise in the last year into managements face, but you can't be too sure.
I am operating on the assumption that every new contract signed has moved the 'standard' average up and the union will take this into account when this section is finally bargained.
Last I heard something about their position on this was almost a year ago.
I can't imagine they'd be dumb enough to not throw DA UA WN and whoever else got a 20%+ raise in the last year into managements face, but you can't be too sure.
01-30-2017, 06:03 AM
#1015
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 219
Originally Posted by NK Bumble Bee
That has been said many times from the NC that the ask is going up with every new contract. The only dispute I've heard through the rumormill is who are peers are; Spirit would not like to acknowledge DL/UA/AA as peers. You know, we're a different tier afterall.
01-30-2017, 07:15 AM
#1016
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Airplane
Posts: 2,385
You guys need to read the union emails and/or attend the union events OR contact your reps.
They have the answers as these questions have been answered many, many times.
They have the answers as these questions have been answered many, many times.
01-30-2017, 07:26 AM
#1017
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,603
Originally Posted by Lobaeux
You guys need to read the union emails and/or attend the union events OR contact your reps.
They have the answers as these questions have been answered many, many times.
They have the answers as these questions have been answered many, many times.
01-30-2017, 07:46 AM
#1018
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: DTW Left
Posts: 168
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Gonna have to agree here
01-30-2017, 07:48 AM
#1019
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: DTW Left
Posts: 168
Originally Posted by Gunga Din
Can anyone here please verify the union has acknowledged the 'industry standard' has risen significantly since we started this process?
I am operating on the assumption that every new contract signed has moved the 'standard' average up and the union will take this into account when this section is finally bargained.
Last I heard something about their position on this was almost a year ago.
I can't imagine they'd be dumb enough to not throw DA UA WN and whoever else got a 20%+ raise in the last year into managements face, but you can't be too sure.
I am operating on the assumption that every new contract signed has moved the 'standard' average up and the union will take this into account when this section is finally bargained.
Last I heard something about their position on this was almost a year ago.
I can't imagine they'd be dumb enough to not throw DA UA WN and whoever else got a 20%+ raise in the last year into managements face, but you can't be too sure.
01-30-2017, 08:05 AM
#1020
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Switch, Lever & Light Specialist
Posts: 1,065
Originally Posted by RalphWiggum
It's alright just excuse Gunga Dimwit. His willful ignorance to the negotiating process and the RLA has been on display here as long as he's posted.
Exactly right. Ignorant blowhard...the information is out there. But he's apparently too dim to understand.
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