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02-16-2017 | 10:56 AM

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Car Ramrod

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Originally Posted by Gunga Din

Wasn't our contract amendable on Aug 1, 2015? We are way past the time to be ****ed.

I realize you're talking about only mediation but you make it sound like we've only been at this 1 year. That's not the case. I don't recall when Hawaiian contract was amendable.

I'm not sure when Hawaiian's contract was amendable. We could use that comparison if you would like. Anyone know?

I was merely trying to give an apples-to-apples comparison for those people who think we will have a contract in 3 months vs 2020.

02-16-2017 | 10:59 AM

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Car Ramrod

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Originally Posted by NFjt

Gotta love how Fornaro seems to point to mediation as the reason we are progressing slowly as if things were speeding right along before then....

Yeah no kidding. The whole negotiating with Gyro was nothing more than a stall tactic.

02-16-2017 | 11:07 AM

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3inthegreen

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Originally Posted by Car Ramrod

HAL
Amendable Sept 2015
Mediation Jan 2016
AIP FEB 2017
Vote closes MAR 24, 2017
New Contract Begins April 1, 2017

02-16-2017 | 11:12 AM

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Car Ramrod

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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen

HAL
Amendable Sept 2015
Mediation Jan 2016
AIP FEB 2017
Vote closes MAR 24, 2017
New Contract Begins April 1, 2017

So they were amendable the month after we were, but they were able to get into mediation 8 months before us. Thanks.

02-16-2017 | 11:18 AM

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NFjt

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Originally Posted by Car Ramrod

Yeah no kidding. The whole negotiating with Gyro was nothing more than a stall tactic.

Idea probably being wear us down

02-16-2017 | 01:57 PM

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abbynormallaw

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Originally Posted by Chimpy

Unreal, and we haven't even FNG BEGUN talking $. Not to worry, we are meeting ONCE IN MARCH AND ONCE IN APRIL.

What a joke, why isn't everyone ****ed off. Jesus Christ

There's no motivation for the company to give us a deal! Junior guys are raking in the MUP with or without RLS, senior guys think $185 an hour is more than enough money and have no clue what the market rate is for a 12 yr not 15 yr CA! Flights are being covered and leaving on time. Regional FOs can't wait to get into that brand new 320 NEO for poverty wages!

02-16-2017 | 02:02 PM

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ovrtake92

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Originally Posted by abbynormallaw

Yes and don't forget expressjet is downsizing like crazy right now. All these regional pilots will be inundating spirit with resumes for the next 2 years. Gonna be a slog!

02-16-2017 | 02:04 PM

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Chimpy

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Well, SWA & HAL weren't having staffing issues. They were covering all their flights and had plenty of apps. What's so different.........

Was a rhetorical question. The answer for those that don't know it because our management loathes us

02-16-2017 | 02:14 PM

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Dukeuno

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Originally Posted by abbynormallaw

I had a CA tell me the other day that he was already making over 240 and hour. I asked him how he came up with that number. He basically said that this month he was crediting over 95hrs of pay at 185 an hour, but he was only flying 72 hrs. So he said he divides his pay ( 95*185/72) by hours flown. I told him nicely that he was only getting 185 hour, but he didn't agree. This sort of thinking is what I call stinkin thinking.