first 18-24 months may suck, some of the worst reserve rules/QOL/pay in the industry. but hey you will get the hear people say "cautiously optimistic" every day. who knows what this place will look like when allegiant gets their way with us. come on in, but keep your apps up to date.

 

Notwithstanding my previous statements, my recommendation to my friends is: if you get an offer, leave your 135 or regional, come here, and then leave at your first opportunity for a grown up airline.

 

Would the same opinion be shared if one will be commuting to sun country? Or would it be better to commute for a regional?

 

Ok, I'll bite… How many places do you have your apps out?

 

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The recommendation is for friends who are thinking about coming here. I wouldn't recommend leaving to someone in the top ~40% of seniority at this time unless he's pretty young and not tied down.

 

Good advice.

 

With DOJ and DOT approval, looks like ALG will operate both airlines as is. Anyone care to wager how many years it takes to see a JCBA? I doubt there is any interim bargaining agreement on either side. I know of other mergers that have taken quite a while, just wondering if its worth sticking around for?

 

At G4 we’re being told a bridge agreement is eminent on our CBA front. It’ll most likely just be pay and retirement and a PBS loa to make it cost neutral for the company 🤣.
anyone’s guess on the JCBA. Knowing Allegiant they will come out pretty quickly with a “comprehensive” pass. It’ll have shiny pay rates and work rules to parallel what SY has. Keep in mind we don’t even have things like min day pay or full DH pay here. Our guys are fatigued on negotiations and the company knows it. They’ll hope we’ll take the first thing dangled in front of us. Many of us here are hoping for a representational change to ALPA and some new blood in our union. I think we’ll need it if we’re gonna make real gains with a JCBA.

 

I feel the combined company will make money. Probably allot of it. Looking over the fence at all other ULCCs I feel very good about our future. Sad to see this thread go to archives but looking forward to a larger operation with larger operation efficiencies. Our small company put ALLOT on captain’s to make the operation flow. I remember one time in Sanford we had a burnt out bulb. Downed us. No, G4 wouldn’t help. We ripped the cockpit apart until we found a bulb that would work and that location could be MEL’d. I won’t miss those days.
Currently giving zero thought to JCBAs & SLIs. Who’s to say I’ll even have a medical when those come to pass years down the road. I’m sure we’ll do fine with them. Our new company needs us combined to realize the profits from this marriage.
I suppose your question ultimately comes down to age. If young you should always weigh a promotion or raise. Always.
If you’re stuck or choose here, as I view it, you’ll make more money than you’ll ever need. At a healthy company. How you spend or invest said money will define your wealth.
Onward Wagons Ho.
I’ll gladly cash my paycheck from G4.

 

Right.

Idk about the JCBA being "worth sticking around for." I would answer "no" to that question, too big a risk.

Here's the question that I'm asking: Is what I have at my seniority now worth sticking around for? For me the answer is yes. For a lot of ppl the answer to that question will be no. Also, can you afford to lose a little in QOL and relative seniority? Bc regardless of JCBA, We are putting effort into new bases which can hurt relative seniority for MN guys. This will probably get worse at some point down the road due to the merger. For me, the status quo with some amount of QOL backsliding is good enough to stick around for now, but for many the answer will be "no." My decision is heavily dependent on what I'm not willing to put myself and my family through in this stage of life, too. We had better get a good JCBA at some point, but in the meantime I can keep on trucking with the status quo and my family and bank account are quite happy.