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Old 01-05-2015, 01:46 PM
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Anyone heard the new hot line rumor that these are being brought on based on our performance? Something like 25 are going back if we don't meet standards?

It must get old sitting in the crew room thinking up doom and gloom stories. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was an additional 25-30 that were based on performance.
This totally sounds like some other airline crews starting rumors cause they are super jelly.
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Old 01-05-2015, 01:49 PM
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This totally sounds like some other airline crews starting rumors cause they are super jelly.
That's what I said. I enjoy the transition and flying with reserve guys just to see the junk that's been floating around.
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Old 01-05-2015, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MavAv8r View Post
Anyone heard the new hot line rumor that these are being brought on based on our performance? Something like 25 are going back if we don't meet standards?

It must get old sitting in the crew room thinking up doom and gloom stories. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was an additional 25-30 that were based on performance.
How is this a rumor? All contracts have performance standards.
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Old 01-05-2015, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MavAv8r View Post
Anyone heard the new hot line rumor that these are being brought on based on our performance? Something like 25 are going back if we don't meet standards?

It must get old sitting in the crew room thinking up doom and gloom stories. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was an additional 25-30 that were based on performance.
You are talking about the next batch of airplanes in addition to those announced. Supposedly if we can staff what they have announced, there will be another group of 30 airplanes on top of what has been announced.
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Old 01-05-2015, 06:20 PM
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You are talking about the next batch of airplanes in addition to those announced. Supposedly if we can staff what they have announced, there will be another group of 30 airplanes on top of what has been announced.
Yes, this is exactly what I heard from a friend at Express Jet who is an ALPA rep. If we can staff the initial batch, we will get more. Also, these aircraft are contingent on our performance. That is what United said. Apparently, we have the worst performance of the United Express carriers. And I heard this from him before our deal was announced.
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Old 01-05-2015, 06:38 PM
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Yes, this is exactly what I heard from a friend at Express Jet who is an ALPA rep. If we can staff the initial batch, we will get more. Also, these aircraft are contingent on our performance. That is what United said. Apparently, we have the worst performance of the United Express carriers. And I heard this from him before our deal was announced.
We do not have the worst performance of United carriers. Are we not great sure, but everyone compares us to 70 seaters which is just plain unfair.

We have gotten our bonuses the every month since October. I doubt the company would set our bonuses at an unacceptable performance level.

ALL flying is contingent of performance, but in my many years at TSA I have seen exactly 1 regional get its flying pulled for performance that didn't include unable to staff(Mesa/Delta).

Performance is important but price is king. Plus, when you are dealing with who is better at the regionals you are literally talking about 1-2% differences in performance. Not something you would pull a contract for.
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Old 01-05-2015, 06:38 PM
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Yes, this is exactly what I heard from a friend at Express Jet who is an ALPA rep. If we can staff the initial batch, we will get more. Also, these aircraft are contingent on our performance. That is what United said. Apparently, we have the worst performance of the United Express carriers. And I heard this from him before our deal was announced.
Was I baked or did Oxley not say that we had better performance than UAL mainline in December?
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Old 01-05-2015, 06:40 PM
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Was I baked or did Oxley not say that we had better performance than UAL mainline in December?
You did. All this nonsense is starting cause our pilots are talking to pilots at other regionals trying to cast shadows on our sunny day.

The flying is going to be here. We will staff it. The world will turn. Those pilots that aren't proactive and don't hop on when the timing is right will miss a great ride.
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Performance is important but price is king. Plus, when you are dealing with who is better at the regionals you are literally talking about 1-2% differences in performance. Not something you would pull a contract for.[/QUOTE]

Price is king. Look at the nonsense going on at KDEN on the express ramp side.. If it's cheap it works..
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Yea I haven't seen our performance numbers, so I'm not real sure where we rank in terms of that. It does, however, seem logical that United would give the aircraft to someone else if we are not getting the job done. I am as happy as anyone that our company is growing and becoming a place where people want to come work. I was just stating what I heard from a very reliable source who is also a great friend. Performance and staffing were going to be factors for us. I'd like to think we'll accomplish both without much of a problem.
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