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01-20-2015, 03:21 PM

#6851

Blanco

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Originally Posted by Celeste

Are there any protections for FOs that are jumped over for an upgrade by less senior CQFOs because they don't meet insurance mins/1000 121 to upgrade if the company stops upgrading pilots by the time that FO meets upgrade mins?

If you don't meet the mins to upgrade, you're not being bypassed. No bypass pay. When you reach upgrade mins, you upgrade at your seniority, possibly bumping a CQFO into the right seat.

01-20-2015, 03:59 PM

#6852

Pilottim79

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blanco

If you don't meet the mins to upgrade, you're not being bypassed. No bypass pay. When you reach upgrade mins, you upgrade at your seniority, possibly bumping a CQFO into the right seat.

Well, a CQFO is right seat but I hear what you're saying I just don't want people reading this and thinking that anyone can be bumped to FO once upgraded. They can't, but yes what you wrote is correct.

01-20-2015, 04:28 PM

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Dude Abides

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Originally Posted by Blanco

If you don't meet the mins to upgrade, you're not being bypassed. No bypass pay. When you reach upgrade mins, you upgrade at your seniority, possibly bumping a CQFO into the right seat.

I don't believe that's how the contract reads. Once a CQFO makes captain, they don't lose it. However their seniority will continue to take a hit as FOs upgrade.

01-20-2015, 04:40 PM

#6854

Blanco

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Originally Posted by Dude Abides

I don't believe that's how the contract reads. Once a CQFO makes captain, they don't lose it. However their seniority will continue to take a hit as FOs upgrade.

You're right, once they've been offered full time left seat.

01-21-2015, 11:02 AM

#6855

TeamRamRod

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For all the lingering performance haterz out there.

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01-21-2015, 11:10 AM

#6856

Whiplash6

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What that doesn't show is the amount of daily departures. You could operate 1 flight daily and have good performance.

01-21-2015, 11:13 AM

#6857

Timma

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Whiplash6

What that doesn't show is the amount of daily departures. You could operate 1 flight daily and have good performance.

really.......

01-21-2015, 11:23 AM

#6858

Riverside

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Whiplash6

What that doesn't show is the amount of daily departures. You could operate 1 flight daily and have good performance.

You really think United generates one performance flight for all carriers. Keep flight instructing dude.

01-21-2015, 11:52 AM

#6859

MavAv8r

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Whiplash6

What that doesn't show is the amount of daily departures. You could operate 1 flight daily and have good performance.

That is your argument back? Really? It must suck that the lowly, scummy, TSA is beating everyone right now. To be honest, looking at FT Web on a daily basis, I thought our performance was sucking this month.

What are you guys going to rip on now? First it was contract..then hiring.. then performance…back to hiring…back to contract… now what? We beat babies and women?