Trans States And Awac
11-24-2014, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by supercub70
Over the past couple months you've been saying AWAC is all but finished and now you're saying they may get 900's? I don't think your past Intel was very solid so excuse me for not paying much attention to your latest info.
And as far as sources go, we all have sources for information and just like everthing else , some are better than others as we all know.
11-24-2014, 08:10 AM
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I've always been under the impression awac will extend the contract as long as they want to stay in business, which as of this week is another 6 years minimum. The 900s would have come here from endeavor had they liquidated during their bankruptcy vote. Perhaps if endeavor can't staff them they still will but that's purely speculation at this point.
11-24-2014, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
I still think Awac is in for a shaky ride.If airways dosent extend the 200 flying they will be reduced to just the 26 delta planes.There are 71 planes that hang in the balance there.Im glad to see that something good is happening for Awac finally but with the way delta Plays musical chairs with its flying I'd be cautious to say the least.Just ask anyone at Xjt or endeavor. Enjoy your ride there, wait it out and see what transpires.
And as far as sources go, we all have sources for information and just like everthing else , some are better than others as we all know.
And as far as sources go, we all have sources for information and just like everthing else , some are better than others as we all know.
The real sword of Damocles was that the lack of news was an indication that they just wanted to pack all their money and move on, and this really removes that as a threat.
Could we lose all airways flying at the end of next year? maybe, but i think its highly unlikely that they have 0 plan in place for 71 rjs.
TLDR; If snow white and the six dwarfs want to keep flying they probably know a way to do it.
Ps- some of the posts in this thread have confirmed that yes, crack is indeed whack.
11-24-2014, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
I thought an extension of the 71 200s beyond 2015 was at the option of AWAC, not AAG...?
11-24-2014, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
I thought an extension of the 71 200s beyond 2015 was at the option of AWAC, not AAG...?
I don't think US Airways/AA can easily replace the lift that AWAC provides without reducing frequency and possibly bringing some of the flying back in-house. This doesn't only apply to AWAC. It would, of course apply to all contract carriers. They're no longer as expendable as they were 5 or 6 years ago. There will be some casualties. We've seen that with Comair, but I don't think they can do that indefinitely.
This will slowly become an industry-wide issue.
AWAC is staffing OK now but it's uncertain how long that will remain the case. There are still more pilots retiring across the industry than the FAA is issuing new certificates.
11-24-2014, 01:32 PM
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It's a shell game right now. A year from now none of this will matter. A few regionals will have closed up shop but the pilot group as a whole will be better off. 2015 will welcome over 1000 new pilots to the major leagues.
11-25-2014, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
Im glad to see that something good is happening for Awac finally
That's quite the change from a few months ago when you thought AWAC was going out of business and you seemed very happy about it.
11-25-2014, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
From what my friend at Endeavor told me is that if they can't staff the 81 crj 900s properly some of it will probably be dealt to Awac as well if the 200 flying goes well . Endeavor is having a very difficult time staffing right now I guess.
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