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#381
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I'm sorry that it isn't all sunshine and rainbows in your book, let me go out on a limb and say, like it was at your previous company. I really don't see why this is such a HUGE deal that you have to pay for 1 hotel room in your 3 months of training.
#382
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You honestly think guys that are making around $1,000 a month after taxes until the completion of OE have no right to complain about footing the bill for a couple of nights in a hotel?!?!? Only in this industry would someone consider this acceptable. Guys with your attitude are the reason why we are compensated so badly at the regional level. Trans States should be providing hotels through the completion of OE with 75 hour guarantee and per diem. That should be standard across the board.
#383
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Joined: May 2014
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You honestly think guys that are making around $1,000 a month after taxes until the completion of OE have no right to complain about footing the bill for a couple of nights in a hotel?!?!? Only in this industry would someone consider this acceptable. Guys with your attitude are the reason why we are compensated so badly at the regional level. Trans States should be providing hotels through the completion of OE with 75 hour guarantee and per diem. That should be standard across the board.
The reality is Compass, up until very recently, was making new hires pay for their own lodging during training on training pay. Yet, people weren't ripping on them and considering leaving due to having to pay for lodging, but because it is Trans States and TSA is apparently trash in others' eyes it's a major foul. That's the part that some of us don't get. It's "fine" for other carriers to do it, but it's like we are the only place in the industry that has ****ty training pay.
It looks like, from the outside, that everyone is trying like hell to try and make this growth look like it's not real or a scam. It is what you see, and the reality is it's going to happen. Just because some dude is on here *****ing about training pay and how he told his buddy that training pay sucks isn't going to change that fact.
#384
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Joined: Feb 2011
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Either give me full pay the day I finish loft, or put me in a hotel until IOE complete.
#385
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Totally agree and I'm guessing RamRod is somewhere in that area that it SHOULD be that way across the board, but it isn't. It isn't a TSA specific problem. That's what he is getting at. People are making it sound like we are scum of the industry because there is no per diem in training and you may have to pay for a hotel on IOE. You make more in training here than you do at XJET. At least you are paid while waiting for IOE here. So why isn't everyone over on that forum ripping on their training pay?
The reality is Compass, up until very recently, was making new hires pay for their own lodging during training on training pay. Yet, people weren't ripping on them and considering leaving due to having to pay for lodging, but because it is Trans States and TSA is apparently trash in others' eyes it's a major foul. That's the part that some of us don't get. It's "fine" for other carriers to do it, but it's like we are the only place in the industry that has ****ty training pay.
It looks like, from the outside, that everyone is trying like hell to try and make this growth look like it's not real or a scam. It is what you see, and the reality is it's going to happen. Just because some dude is on here *****ing about training pay and how he told his buddy that training pay sucks isn't going to change that fact.
The reality is Compass, up until very recently, was making new hires pay for their own lodging during training on training pay. Yet, people weren't ripping on them and considering leaving due to having to pay for lodging, but because it is Trans States and TSA is apparently trash in others' eyes it's a major foul. That's the part that some of us don't get. It's "fine" for other carriers to do it, but it's like we are the only place in the industry that has ****ty training pay.
It looks like, from the outside, that everyone is trying like hell to try and make this growth look like it's not real or a scam. It is what you see, and the reality is it's going to happen. Just because some dude is on here *****ing about training pay and how he told his buddy that training pay sucks isn't going to change that fact.
#387
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Joined: Nov 2014
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If it's so damn bad at TSA in your mind, then why did you leave your previous company? Again, if it's so bad, stop complaining, and go back to your multiple regional carriers you've got experience at. This sh!t gets old after awhile. Flying with a guy that has a perfect opportunity to go from sitting in the right seat at his previous company for 6 years and he's now sitting in the left seat here, with someone senior to him in the right seat, and all he can do for 2 hours in cruise is trash the company that's giving him said opportunity.
#388
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Joined: Feb 2011
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If it's so damn bad at TSA in your mind, then why did you leave your previous company? Again, if it's so bad, stop complaining, and go back to your multiple regional carriers you've got experience at. This sh!t gets old after awhile. Flying with a guy that has a perfect opportunity to go from sitting in the right seat at his previous company for 6 years and he's now sitting in the left seat here, with someone senior to him in the right seat, and all he can do for 2 hours in cruise is trash the company that's giving him said opportunity.
Welcome to the regionals.
I won't apologize for wanting better conditions. The reason I ***** is because I want change so that others will join us in our growth. If regionals only realized the power of positive feedback about a place then they'd stand a much better chance.
#389
Paying for your own lodging during training at Delta and paying for it here are two different animals. Have you compared training pay at the two? Have you considered that at Delta it is a one time investment in a place where you can legitimately spend three plus decades and recoup your cost within the first year? Have you considered that Delta may not be the norm, when most other mainline carriers provide lodging during training? The only other one I'm aware of that doesn't is Frontier.
#390
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People that have actually worked here for more than 10 seconds know that and have stated as such.
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