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Old 02-25-2015 | 05:35 PM
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And truck drivers. And fork lift operators. And warehouse managers. And train engineers. And bus drivers. And subway operators.
Not even close CB, it takes almost 100 locomotives to generate the same revenue as a 777. Aviation\aerospace is close to 20% of world GDP. Nobody out there is getting the shaft like we are.
Old 02-25-2015 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin
I am where I am soley on someone else's behalf. Its not that I'm away from mama, its that I'm here not on my own volition but because work says I have to be. I'm here on an overnight because I have to be. It's not my choice. Oh...and while you're busy being a wise a**...my kids are going to bed without a dad tonite.
Boo hoo. People who travel for work don't get paid more for traveling. Salaried employees don't get over time or more for working all weekends. They either do their job or get fired no matter how much time they have off. And yes, they get paid less than an average regional captain. I don't feel bad for you or your kids. It was your choice to work in a job that is 100% travel.
Old 02-25-2015 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Boo hoo. People who travel for work don't get paid more for traveling. Salaried employees don't get over time or more for working all weekends. They either do their job or get fired no matter how much time they have off. And yes, they get paid less than an average regional captain. I don't feel bad for you or your kids. It was your choice to work in a job that is 100% travel.
Just keep be willing to work for less. Keep telling yourself you're overpaid.
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Originally Posted by EV120
E-170 was a mainline plane(Mid-Atlantic)before Airways sold them off.

Mainline pilots have a bad history of selling scope for preservation
I don't think so. MidAtlantic was the 4th WO for US Airways along with PDT, ALG and PSA.

They staffed it will Furloughed Mainline pilots and when enough didn't take the crappy job and pay they staffed it with pilots from ALG and PDT that wanted to flow up.

The pay was nothing like mainline. It sucked!!
Old 02-25-2015 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin
Just keep be willing to work for less. Keep telling yourself you're overpaid.
I think I'm underpaid. I'm telling you that it's worse in most other jobs in corporate America. I don't feel bad for any airline pilot being away from his family. It's the job. If you wanted to be home every night, you can be a salesman or manager.
Old 02-25-2015 | 05:54 PM
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I think I'm underpaid. I'm telling you that it's worse in most other jobs in corporate America. I don't feel bad for any airline pilot being away from his family. It's the job. If you wanted to be home every night, you can be a salesman or manager.
So since I chose to become an airline pilot does that mean my time should have no value? What is the value you place on your time away from home?
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Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin
So since I chose to become an airline pilot does that mean my time should have no value? What is the value you place on your time away from home?
You accepted your job knowing full well that you'd be spending a lot of time away from home. You accepted it knowing that you don't get paid unless you are flying. You can't sign a contract and then complain that it is inadequate. I guess you can but you'll get no sympathy from me.
Old 02-25-2015 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
You accepted your job knowing full well that you'd be spending a lot of time away from home. You accepted it knowing that you don't get paid unless you are flying. You can't sign a contract and then complain that it is inadequate. I guess you can but you'll get no sympathy from me.
So you place zero value on your time spent away from home is what you're saying.
Old 02-25-2015 | 06:08 PM
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And since you don't think people should complain over inadequate contracts you disagree with any efforts for unions to improve contracts?
Old 02-25-2015 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Boo hoo. People who travel for work don't get paid more for traveling. Salaried employees don't get over time or more for working all weekends. They either do their job or get fired no matter how much time they have off. And yes, they get paid less than an average regional captain. I don't feel bad for you or your kids. It was your choice to work in a job that is 100% travel.
Are you certain of this? The bigger the company, the less likely it is they get away with having employees work for free. Traveling should be done during business hours, and if it goes beyond the allotted time, then over time or some sort of compensatory time. Usually, if you are on the company's time, you are being paid. If you work more than 40 in a week or 80 in a payperiod, you get overtime. Not sure what corporate world you are referring to, except maybe what you are used to. What you are stating above is only the "rule" for the airline industry and pilots.
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