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Old 02-25-2015 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NERD
Hey Dumb and Dumber(CBreezy and HuskerAv8tor) how many days away from home and what pay do you two retards think is acceptable? You do realize that if pilots received $10 per pax split 60/40 we would all make significantly more including benefits. We are not overpaid by a long shot, nor underworked.
Not the point! We all make choices in life. If you decide to be an airline pilot don't ***** about being away from home. I've been through numerous deployments in life so I have no patience listening to a bunch of ******** complain about being away from home sleeping in a Sheraton in downtown Nashville etc. Especially when they chose to be in this profession. I'm sure many of you are the types that recieved participation trophies as well.

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Old 02-25-2015 | 09:11 PM
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"Dumb and dumber"

That pretty much describes the complete garbage spewed out by those two in the past few pages.

Makes me wonder what they are really all about.
Old 02-25-2015 | 09:31 PM
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Cbreezy, huskerav8tr and facebitten seem to be of the attitude that pilots are well paid and have a low stress and easy job.

They must have very low expectations in life, have no understanding of the history of the piloting profession, and no interest in working with other pilots to make things better.

The way they got all over this together is just a bit weird. I say that regional pilots need to stand up and take control of your unions back from management and the mainlines and they jump all over me and other posters saying airline pilots have an easy job and are paid well enough for how little work they do actually do.

I really cant believe what I saw they had all just typed into this thread. I've never met an actual regional pilot in person with that attitude. Makes me wonder.

So here I am inciting pilots to unite and they jump in here to derail that with a bunch of nonsense. Hmmm.
Old 02-25-2015 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
Are you certain of this? The bigger the company, the less likely it is they get away with having employees work for free. Traveling should be done during business hours, and if it goes beyond the allotted time, then over time or some sort of compensatory time. Usually, if you are on the company's time, you are being paid. If you work more than 40 in a week or 80 in a payperiod, you get overtime. Not sure what corporate world you are referring to, except maybe what you are used to. What you are stating above is only the "rule" for the airline industry and pilots.
My significant other works in corporate America and is salary. She is required to be contactable at all times and travels on weekends and holidays occasionally. While she can receive a comp day for that, she doesn't get paid a penny more to be away for a week at a time. I actually spend more time at home than she has days off. Whe she's on the road, she spends 12-16 hours working and receives zero extra compensation. OT is only paid to hourly employees.

To the rest, you can call me dumb, but I assure you I'm more educated than you. Just because I find it assinine to be complaining about not being able to tuck your kids in at night like this is some sort of injustice doesn't mean I'm dumb. Firefighters, police, and military often miss holidays and "tucking their kids in." I don't see them demanding to be paid more than $250k a year because their kids miss daddy. You signed on the dotted line knowing full well that you'd be spending half the month away from home. If you signed up thinking that would magically change then maybe you should point your insults at the person who made such a stupid decision in The first place.
Old 02-25-2015 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pete2800
Any route that was once flown by mainline pilots.





Yes, all of them.
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Yet another brilliant budding financial wizard. United should go back to flying 50 people back and forth from COS to DEN on a DC10 (or 767 now). Because it's a mainline route. Good grief.
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Originally Posted by JustAMushroom
Yet another brilliant budding financial wizard. United should go back to flying 50 people back and forth from COS to DEN on a DC10 (or 767 now). Because it's a mainline route. Good grief.
That was pretty funny right there!
Old 02-25-2015 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NERD
Hey Dumb and Dumber(CBreezy and HuskerAv8tor) how many days away from home and what pay do you two retards think is acceptable? You do realize that if pilots received $10 per pax split 60/40 we would all make significantly more including benefits. We are not overpaid by a long shot, nor underworked.
Your math is flawed. Assume an average Segment ticket costs $100. You believe that you should make 10% of total revenue? That's laughable. How much revenue do you think goes toward aircraft leases, fuel, parts, maintenance, catering, cleaning, fees, etc? Then Add in admin costs like dispatch, scheduling, management, recruiting, training, insurance, IT, etc. On an hour flight, fuel ALONE costs $30/person (conservative estimate assuming 2000lb fuel burn and $5/gal). I'd imagine leases account for no less than 40%. So, that leaves 20% to split for all the rest? Start an airline and let me know how that works out.
Old 02-25-2015 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
To the rest, you can call me dumb, but I assure you I'm more educated than you.
Seriously, What is wrong with you?

All this smells like astroturfing to me.

This discussion is getting too dangerous because you are afraid pilots are beginning to see the truth and become "educated" like you?

I believe you are educated which is why I think you're a complete fake along with your buddies.
Old 02-25-2015 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
This is called an opinion. I'm sorry it hurts your feelings that I disagree with yours.
My feelings? I'm here to support regional pilots. What are you?

I fully believe pilots should lobby for better wages. I've said that 5 times. Are you there? Can you read?
Lobby? Lobby? Since when do airline pilots "lobby?" You're sounding like a PR worker, not a pilot. Besides you didn't say that. You said pilots should quit complaining about pay because they knew what they were getting into and they have an easy job and don't work that hard.
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Originally Posted by NineGturn
My feelings? I'm here to support regional pilots. What are you?



Lobby? Lobby? Since when do airline pilots "lobby?" You're sounding like a PR worker, not a pilot. Besides you didn't say that. You said pilots should quit complaining about pay because they knew what they were getting into and they have an easy job and don't work that hard.
No. I said pilots should quit complaining about being away from home and that $200k is PLENTY of money for a pilot. There are a few people on here who can verify I'm one person and you're paranoid. Also, FB and I have argued many times before because I say bad things about Mesa's poor contract and he disagrees. Put your tinfoil hat back on.
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