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08-14-2016, 10:51 AM
#991
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
Ok.. where's the agreement? But you're missing my point even without reading an agreement, just about what we're talking about here, the company giving us an extra day off is not a concession on their part. They took it away from us and are using that now as a tactic to make it seem like it's a qol life gain by bringing it back. It doesn't work like that, you really don't get that? We don't need PBS but they do.
08-14-2016, 11:07 AM
#992
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
They took it away because the Union was so committed that they would get agreement that they essentially told the company they were willing to bet on reserve days off. Well, the Union and pilot group became uncommitted so, the language that was written into the contract that you voted yes to in 2011 became effective. Do you blame the bookie for collecting on his bets? This is not the company's fault, it is yours. You said if you don't agree that they can take 10 days off back.
08-14-2016, 11:57 AM
#993
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
Yea I don't think it's the company's fault, they're only obligated to give you what you negotiate. What are we going to do now? The company will say having 10 days off doesn't hurt but it definitely does in the long run and they know it. Not to mention that doesn't address how to keep pilots that are already here. They're suddenly trying to negotiate again, always remember that they need this. Don't get caught up in reserve coverage statistics, now is our chance to bring real gain. Not just 11 days off.
08-14-2016, 12:01 PM
#994
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
Yea I don't think it's the company's fault, they're only obligated to give you what you negotiate. What are we going to do now? The company will say having 10 days off doesn't hurt but it definitely does in the long run and they know it. Not to mention that doesn't address how to keep pilots that are already here. They're suddenly trying to negotiate again, always remember that they need this. Don't get caught up in reserve coverage statistics, now is our chance to bring real gain. Not just 11 days off.
08-15-2016, 10:24 AM
#998
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Originally Posted by blackbox348
Probably from being at 10 days off. Thanks god this trial period of PBS that the pilot group had no say in will fix that.
08-15-2016, 02:27 PM
#999
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
You had plenty of say. You filled out the survey and emailed your reps. They negotiated a deal that is going to let you "test" out almost every aspect of the LOA and THEN be allowed to vote on it. So, you're getting contract improvements like a generous min day and still can vote it down if you want.
Test driving an loa to some extent is good. I cant rip on our reps (yet), because they are doing negotiations. If I dont like the loa ta, than I can vote it down. But I cannot complain because there is nothing to complain about (yet). Lets see what happens!
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