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09-17-2016, 05:09 PM
#1111
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
Less pilots in class = more leverage for us. Dont know why you always get your feathers ruffled when recruiting comes up. Oh yea, I remember, you're a management stooge.
09-20-2016, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Planedrive
How big were the September classes?
With Envoy, PSA, and Endeavor offering near 60k first year and other airlines offering interviews/ flows our recruiting department has their work cut out for them.
With Envoy, PSA, and Endeavor offering near 60k first year and other airlines offering interviews/ flows our recruiting department has their work cut out for them.
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09-21-2016, 04:53 PM
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Classes since 03 Aug have gone something like:
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10
6
20
Many of the people that do the seniority reservation program are actually sticking around. TSA certainly isn't the holy grail, but they're not bad. Especially compared to many other regionals at the moment. Even, yes, the AAG wholly owned ones
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Many of the people that do the seniority reservation program are actually sticking around. TSA certainly isn't the holy grail, but they're not bad. Especially compared to many other regionals at the moment. Even, yes, the AAG wholly owned ones
09-23-2016, 09:59 AM
#1117
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Originally Posted by 4thgenaviator
Classes since 03 Aug have gone something like:
18
10
6
20
Many of the people that do the seniority reservation program are actually sticking around. TSA certainly isn't the holy grail, but they're not bad. Especially compared to many other regionals at the moment. Even, yes, the AAG wholly owned ones
18
10
6
20
Many of the people that do the seniority reservation program are actually sticking around. TSA certainly isn't the holy grail, but they're not bad. Especially compared to many other regionals at the moment. Even, yes, the AAG wholly owned ones
09-23-2016, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
So according to you, it's better than the AAG wholly owned? How exactly is it better? I think we're probably at the bottom, even mesa has brand new planes at least.
That being said, they need to probably merge certificates to compete.
09-23-2016, 02:38 PM
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We are not at the bottom. We are definitely not at the top or anywhere close to it. We are in the middle to the bottom third, which is not good.
The fact of the matter is that while we have better pay, benefits, and a better contract than some, those things are not in any way enough to make us attractive to new hires, which is what we desperately need. This is a new market; a money market. New hires don't care about contracts and reserve rules. They care about money, upgrade and flow. Our pay is below others, I calculate my upgrade time to be at least 12-18 months away from now and I've been here 16 months, and we have no flow.
If management doesn't change their tune, this airline will dry up. No one will come here. The "reserve your seniority" program will only be a band aid for so long.
The fact of the matter is that while we have better pay, benefits, and a better contract than some, those things are not in any way enough to make us attractive to new hires, which is what we desperately need. This is a new market; a money market. New hires don't care about contracts and reserve rules. They care about money, upgrade and flow. Our pay is below others, I calculate my upgrade time to be at least 12-18 months away from now and I've been here 16 months, and we have no flow.
If management doesn't change their tune, this airline will dry up. No one will come here. The "reserve your seniority" program will only be a band aid for so long.
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