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Old 06-27-2018, 07:27 AM   #1  
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Can't really tell if this also effects ALPA, or just public unions too. Anyone with insight or understanding on this?

USA TODAY: Supreme Court deals major blow to nation's public employee unions

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It COULD affect ALPA if, say,some scab is upset that he has to pay union dues and goes to court.

It’s absolutely BS. They get the negotiated benefits and the payscale of the Union but don’t want to buy into it.

Idiot voters thinking he represents the “working class”
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Can't really tell if this also effects ALPA, or just public unions too. Anyone with insight or understanding on this?

USA TODAY: Supreme Court deals major blow to nation's public employee unions

https://usat.ly/2yJIISg

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The ruling doesn't apply to private sector unions, but I imagine it's only a matter of time before the challenge is made.
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In recent years, so-called Right to Work groups as well as some conservatives on the court have pushed for it to be overturned. Wednesday, nearly half of all states have laws on the books that allow broad fair share fees for public employees.

The case was brought by Mark Janus, an Illinois public sector employee, who challenged the fees. He said that because he is a government employee, issues germane to collective bargaining are inherently political. He argued that the First Amendment protected him from having to support such political expression.

Janus has been represented in the challenge by groups such as the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation and the Liberty Justice Center.

The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, which represents public sector employees, has described the challenge as a threat to American workers.

The public sector unions argue that they are required by law to represent all employees regardless of if they are members and that no one is required to join the union.

If non-members don't have any obligation to pay fair share fees for the collective bargaining obligations, they would become free riders, benefiting from the representation without sharing the costs, the unions say. The coffers of public sector unions would also suffer if non-members were able to get services for free.



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The ruling doesn't apply to private sector unions, but I imagine it's only a matter of time before the challenge is made.

Maybe it would force ALPA to deliver RESULTS instead of the tablescraps we get. This TA is sub-standard in pay and language. The loopholes in the verbiage are completely unacceptable.



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No one should have to join a club with forced dues in order to work for the government.

In terms of private sector, no one should have to do it there either, but it should be a choice.

Also keep in mind that unions are the largest Democrat slush funding source there is.
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With Kennedy retiring it's headed to the private sector next.

Yay! Lower wages and worse working conditions. 'Cause Freedom!!!
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No one should have to join a club with forced dues in order to work for the government.

In terms of private sector, no one should have to do it there either, but it should be a choice.

Also keep in mind that unions are the largest Democrat slush funding source there is.
No one should be allowed to leech off a "club" that negotiates pay/work rules.

If a person chooses to decline membership or not pay dues, the union should cut him loose. He will then be at the mercy of his employer in regards to negotiating a compensation package. History shows he will be disappointed. But hey, it's all about "right to work" (for less) so, best of luck to him.
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No one should have to join a club with forced dues in order to work for the government.

In terms of private sector, no one should have to do it there either, but it should be a choice.

Also keep in mind that unions are the largest Democrat slush funding source there is.
And corporations help fund Republicans. Yay.

I know at the bargaining table corporations are using all their leverage to pay me and my family as little as possible. My union is the only one trying to raise my family's standard of living.
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With Kennedy retiring it's headed to the private sector next.

Yay! Lower wages and worse working conditions. 'Cause Freedom!!!
Yep. I hope you all enjoyed the good years of being a pilot.

Pilots will be the FIRST ones to start not paying union dues if not required.
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