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10-17-2022, 01:06 PM
#11
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Like it or not, the bar has now been set by Alaskan.
12th yr 73/Guppy Capt- $306 (TODAY)
5:15 ADG
Sick leave accrual still higher than us (5:30 per month)
Vacation credit higher (3:45)
Known Holidays... with pay
Schedules out by the 12th!
But here is the real kicker-
Reserve first day moved to 1400! Yes, with a new reserve PBS implementation it can go back to 1100-1300.. but WOW.
Like I said, the bar is now set. Someone had to be first and they were it.
Now lets see what our NC and the company feel we are worth.
Always
Motch
12th yr 73/Guppy Capt- $306 (TODAY)
5:15 ADG
Sick leave accrual still higher than us (5:30 per month)
Vacation credit higher (3:45)
Known Holidays... with pay
Schedules out by the 12th!
But here is the real kicker-
Reserve first day moved to 1400! Yes, with a new reserve PBS implementation it can go back to 1100-1300.. but WOW.
Like I said, the bar is now set. Someone had to be first and they were it.
Now lets see what our NC and the company feel we are worth.
Always
Motch
10-17-2022, 01:08 PM
#12
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Joined APC: Sep 2021
Posts: 25
Originally Posted by horrido27
Like it or not, the bar has now been set by Alaskan.
12th yr 73/Guppy Capt- $306 (TODAY)
5:15 ADG
Sick leave accrual still higher than us (5:30 per month)
Vacation credit higher (3:45)
Known Holidays... with pay
Schedules out by the 12th!
But here is the real kicker-
Reserve first day moved to 1400! Yes, with a new reserve PBS implementation it can go back to 1100-1300.. but WOW.
Like I said, the bar is now set. Someone had to be first and they were it.
Now lets see what our NC and the company feel we are worth.
Always
Motch
12th yr 73/Guppy Capt- $306 (TODAY)
5:15 ADG
Sick leave accrual still higher than us (5:30 per month)
Vacation credit higher (3:45)
Known Holidays... with pay
Schedules out by the 12th!
But here is the real kicker-
Reserve first day moved to 1400! Yes, with a new reserve PBS implementation it can go back to 1100-1300.. but WOW.
Like I said, the bar is now set. Someone had to be first and they were it.
Now lets see what our NC and the company feel we are worth.
Always
Motch
That **** is horrible.
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10-17-2022, 01:46 PM
#13
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: 756 Left Side
Posts: 1,629
Originally Posted by Thunder Rooster
That **** is horrible.
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Again, not saying I agree with it or not. But the bar is now moved from their end and that, along with whatever happened between the DALALPA & Management offers last week make our company's initial offer a REAL JOKE.. not just a one off.
Again, just looking at Average Pay per Day.. they are now equal to American and Delta. We lack..
Motch
10-17-2022, 03:23 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Sep 2022
Posts: 311
Originally Posted by horrido27
To you and me.. maybe. But it's obvious that for THEIR Pilot Group, they found it acceptable.
Again, not saying I agree with it or not. But the bar is now moved from their end and that, along with whatever happened between the DALALPA & Management offers last week make our company's initial offer a REAL JOKE.. not just a one off.
Again, just looking at Average Pay per Day.. they are now equal to American and Delta. We lack..
Motch
Again, not saying I agree with it or not. But the bar is now moved from their end and that, along with whatever happened between the DALALPA & Management offers last week make our company's initial offer a REAL JOKE.. not just a one off.
Again, just looking at Average Pay per Day.. they are now equal to American and Delta. We lack..
Motch
So is our MEC taking note and seriously working with management orrr….are they going to fire from the hip again with TA2 and hope for the best?
10-17-2022, 04:27 PM
#15
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Position: B777 CA
Posts: 737
Originally Posted by RaginCajun
So is our MEC taking note and seriously working with management orrr….are they going to fire from the hip again with TA2 and hope for the best?
10-17-2022, 05:16 PM
#16
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Joined APC: Oct 2018
Posts: 511
Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator
Any TA now most likely POS (hope I’m wrong). We need all recalls at DEN, LAX, SFO and IAH to proceed. Once they do new MEC, recall MEC Officers, NC and all Insler hangers on. It will take time. Like DAL hopefully a much superior contract in 9 months or longer. It will take time.
10-17-2022, 05:17 PM
#17
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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator
Any TA now most likely POS (hope I’m wrong). We need all recalls at DEN, LAX, SFO and IAH to proceed. Once they do new MEC, recall MEC Officers, NC and all Insler hangers on. It will take time. Like DAL hopefully a much superior contract in 9 months or longer. It will take time.
10-17-2022, 05:26 PM
#18
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Position: 787 FO
Posts: 554
Originally Posted by RaginCajun
Had a friend fly with the MEC vice chair into Vegas last week. He said they were expecting a response from the company before November 1. Smoke and mirrors probably?
10-17-2022, 05:28 PM
#19
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Posts: 500
Originally Posted by RaginCajun
Had a friend fly with the MEC vice chair into Vegas last week. He said they were expecting a response from the company before November 1. Smoke and mirrors probably?
10-17-2022, 05:50 PM
#20
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Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 61
If it were me running the show on the other side of the table, I'd have everything ready to go except for rates and just wait for the Alaska TA to close and pass. Now that that's happened, just fill in a couple of small housekeeping items and send it out. Makes sense to me at least.
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