TA1 voting closes November 1 at 1000ET.

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10-20-2022, 07:38 PM

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Zoomie

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Originally Posted by 01110011

Plus I don’t think those shiny new I/E’s/LCA’s are going to stick around if TA2 slips into nothingness. The ones I’ve talked to going that way seem to be rolling the dice on a solid announcement in the near future, if it doesn’t come I don’t think they’ll stick around.

I don’t think u read everything I wrote.

Highlights: I voted NO and suggest we all do the same.

I don’t think TA1 passes.

I don’t think the vote will close for TA1, ever… too much at risk.

TA2 will be delayed from Nov 1 for at least a few weeks.

The worst case scenario would be a TA1 closure and it passes somehow due to complacency.

I agree LCAs and IEs will start leaving if the can gets kicked down the road long term without an end in sight.

I think it’s way too risky to see results of TA1 at this point.

TA 2 might get an announcement a few days prior to Nov 1, at that point the date will get pushed back

10-20-2022, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoomie

I think the next round of recall votes close on 10Nov. The new LEC officers will likely oppose an AIP at this point. I'm not sure how a vote would be handled between recall & election of interim reps? A roll call would surely fail. Seems that any vote to accept and send to MR would probably have to happen before the 10th.

Clearly I'm making significant assumptions above.

10-21-2022, 06:46 AM

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That Guy 74

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Originally Posted by JTwift

I’m honestly shocked that the vote results can keep getting kicked down the road. TA1 should have been released as planned. The end. If it fails, move to the next. Don’t keep moving the vote results date.

Now that we have recalled C5 and other recalls are in effect, can we get our new LEC reps to take Tumi TA version whatever and drown it in the toilet, let the membership see how the vote turned out, and start fresh?

10-21-2022, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy 74

The only way to publish the vote would be to actually conduct it, and I don’t think anyone wants to do that. For now, I think the soft 11/1 deadline is a fine buffer between old & new. The way I see it, we’ve lost over 3 years to this flub-up, what’s another few days? It gives the company a little time to accept that they’re going to have to come back to the table with completely revised expectations. Hopefully they can do that.

If the union feels like they’re making good headway on an acceptable contract, great. Press forward & let the company save a little face- for now. If Nov 1 comes & they’re still trying to salvage TUMI, then we can start exerting more pressure.