You may not have to answer, but there are situations you are required to acknowledge an assignment made prior to 1800 on LDO. Sometimes the company shall advise a pilot which is done with a voice mail, sometimes not, they can just place it in your schedule. If the assignment was made prior to 1800, then you must establish two way contact or they will call at 0001.

I recommend all RSV experts on this forum sit down and read 20-K and 20-I-6 of the contract a few times. Then read it a few more times.

You get a CDW at 1800 on LDO for a reason. It is duty and starts 30/168 clock running or interrupts a time free from duty. If you have an assignment placed prior to 1800 you have to acknowledge which then satisfies the two way contact requirements.

And for SC or FSB, there is no automated check in available.

Lee

And get me vacation override back too. When you stop smoking whatever you are smoking, let me know.....

Look, we can negotiate any thing but it all has a cost. In the end, it may not cause us to loose anything.......other than something else, say vacation or training pay per day.

It all goes to the bottom line of the cost of the CBA. Not right just is.

Surveys will be forthcoming and I recommend that all participate.

That said, the union will and really must follow the guidance of the whole pilot group. That is the fact of the matter.

Sacrifices will be made in other areas to capture gains in QWL if that is the will of the total pilot group.

Just realize, how we cost items differs greatly from how the company values them. We meet somewhere in the middle ground.

As a much wiser pilot once said, never give up work rules as they'll cost twice as much to get back (Rick D.).

I won't rehash LUAL BK history, other than so much was given to save an A plan that was dead day one of BK. They just had target fixation, as did many of the pilot group. PW sold you a turd and a majority of the pilots voted for it.

We are where we are now because of those monumental mistakes by the "leadership " and the pilots that said yes.

If all is so bad, I recommend a leave of absence. Or, do what I did and take a voluntary furlough. It worked great for me. But, I don't hang my hat on hoping this company succeeds.

I came back because it worked for Me and mine.

When you get a chance, sit down and compare BK 1 and 2 contracts to what we now have........

Is it perfect, no. Is it LCO rules, far from it. Did it "cost" to get to where we are today, yes.

Grow up boys and girls. You might be willing to burn down the house over RSV rules. Unfortunately your contemporaries may not be. Majority rules.

Lee

i have tears in my eyes

beautiful

although this was, Lee, a "whine about reserve" forum and you went and got all business-like.

No, just facts. But thanks.

Oldmako has much wisdom and experience to offer. It's just occasionally skewed by a personal agenda.

As I politely council many PDR submitters, your ignorance of the contract doesn't make it illegal.

Your union gives you a color coded contract that had functional links to joint interpretations as well as an interactive index at the end of it. Heck, the company now even loads that version to the content locker.

Much of the whining I encounter is baseless. It's based mostly on ignorance of the rules of engagement.

RSV improvements might better be done through establishing limits on daily quotas for LSR SC FSB. Not necessarily changing the whole system.

It will all have a value in the end game. Where do we as group want to spend our capital in Section 6 is the question.

For instance, with all the base closings, realignment of flying going on, I'd sacrifice some of pay raise to make the company pony up fair market value for a pilot forced out of a category after say three months on the market.

What would that cost us? No idea.

Is it the right thing to do? IMO yes.

Now, do all pilots feel that way? No.

It's all about your personal perspective. Dean's (OldMako) is from a reality long gone.

Welcome to the new world.

Lee

I'm finishing a 4-day trip tomorrow that was assigned to me while on reserve where I'm scheduled to land at 2340. Also, tomorrow is the last day my scheduled reserve block of days.

If my flight is delayed (flying out of SFO so probably will be) and I don't land until Monday, then I'll be landing on a day off.

My question: is there a certain period of time I must work into Monday before UAL will restore my day off or give me the 4 hours of add pay (1 min, 1 hr, etc...)?

there is but i don't recall
read that reassignment section. it's in there.

Read your contract. Otherwise PDR.alpa.org

Chose the Hotline option.

I wouldn't recommend answers from this forum for contract legality issues.

You have after submission the resources you pay dues for, SSC, negotiating committee and grievance just to name a few.

And the resources to help get something not right fixed.

Just a suggestion from a dude that takes those inquiries.

Lee

Just one minute for a reserve. 4 hours for a line holder.

Say it's 2 minutes for RSV......And then what are the options?

Which section of the CBA covers it? Min days off?

Expand on a useless answer and give guidance.

And I haven't seen the PDR hit my inbox yet. I just flew in from LHR so will probably not handle it. That said, it will be handled by those that know the CBA and QCd by even more.

Lee