CFI to UAL CPP
10-24-2018 | 09:27 AM
#341
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Help me understand..........why is this even taking place when there seem to be plenty of regional captains who have 4000+ TPIC, 10000 TT with a 4 yr degree and a clean background who can’t seem to get called?
There are plenty of posts on this site of those types not getting the nod, yet we have this?
There are plenty of posts on this site of those types not getting the nod, yet we have this?
10-24-2018 | 09:42 AM
#342
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Help me understand..........why is this even taking place when there seem to be plenty of regional captains who have 4000+ TPIC, 10000 TT with a 4 yr degree and a clean background who can’t seem to get called?
There are plenty of posts on this site of those types not getting the nod, yet we have this?
There are plenty of posts on this site of those types not getting the nod, yet we have this?
Interesting, management teams are the ones that created the perceived pilot shortage. They attacked the profession after 9/11, parked jets, killed careers, and grew the RJ industry.
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. It's a big investment of finances and time, as well as some risk-taking to go "all in" to become a professional pilot. You want more pilots? Simple....grow the profession, grow earning potential, restore the dignity to the profession.
10-24-2018 | 09:57 AM
#343
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Those who claim that the relative low time of the graduates of this program should disqualify them, ignore the fact that the military successfully puts very low time pilots into some very demanding flying jobs. And these pilots have substantially more time than a typical military pilot at graduation.
Put the LH school candidate through the SAME screening process as the D.O.D. does as well as the same training, and you MIGHT have an argument.
Also, bear in mind that the students of the LAT CPP CFI's graduate into the right seat of airliners such as Lufthansa. Surely if you can teach someone to fly in the right seat of an airliner, you must be competent to fly the right seat of an airliner.
Help me understand..........why is this even taking place when there seem to be plenty of regional captains who have 4000+ TPIC, 10000 TT with a 4 yr degree and a clean background who can’t seem to get called?
There are plenty of posts on this site of those types not getting the nod, yet we have this?
There are plenty of posts on this site of those types not getting the nod, yet we have this?
10-24-2018 | 10:33 AM
#344
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Anyone who wasn't here for 9/11 needs to read this over and over and over. After 9/11 airline management went on an orgasmic, benefit/pay raiding spree, the chickens are now coming home to roost.
10-24-2018 | 12:29 PM
#345
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There may be a time in the future when these kind of desperate measures might be necessary, but when you’ve literally got thousands of current, qualified, and competent candidates pleading to be let in the door, to voluntarily handicap our hiring process by intentionally bringing on minimally experienced new hires seems a bit insane. I’m sure the HR execs have some well groomed reason that my caveman brain just doesn’t get.
I can’t imagine the traveling public would be too enthused about buying our tickets if the media ever ran with this.
I can’t imagine the traveling public would be too enthused about buying our tickets if the media ever ran with this.
10-24-2018 | 12:48 PM
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There may be a time in the future when these kind of desperate measures might be necessary, but when you’ve literally got thousands of current, qualified, and competent candidates pleading to be let in the door, to voluntarily handicap our hiring process by intentionally bringing on minimally experienced new hires seems a bit insane. I’m sure the HR execs have some well groomed reason that my caveman brain just doesn’t get.
"what do you need a trained/experienced pilot for? those things practically fly themselves!!!!", etc etc etc....
10-24-2018 | 12:52 PM
#347
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As mentioned, it's just being proven it can be done.
I'd like to hope so. But the way the media can "sell" things to the dumbed down sheeple, it could go either way;
"what do you need a trained/experienced pilot for? those things practically fly themselves!!!!", etc etc etc....
I'd like to hope so. But the way the media can "sell" things to the dumbed down sheeple, it could go either way;
"what do you need a trained/experienced pilot for? those things practically fly themselves!!!!", etc etc etc....
10-24-2018 | 12:57 PM
#348
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I don’t think pax really put that much thought into our PA’s. Most have headphones in anyways
10-24-2018 | 01:22 PM
#349
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Turning newly minted CFIs into jet airline pilots? Of course it can be done. It’s being done every day at the regionals and has been since the first RJ flew.
We’re not even reinventing the wheel here, we’re attempting to prove that the wheel could be reinvented...
We’re not even reinventing the wheel here, we’re attempting to prove that the wheel could be reinvented...
10-24-2018 | 02:11 PM
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But as we all know, the conventional wisdom was that for a civilian pilot the most common route was;
"Go to the regionals to build experience so that one day you'll be good enough to be hired by a legacy. You'll need thousands of hours of turbine as well as some healthy TPIC" blah blah blah.....
So as you say, the wheel in being reinvented by removing a step, or 2.
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