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Old 01-24-2018 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy
MasterOfPuppets was spot on.

Tell me more about regional feed. RJ CASM is the highest in aviation; A319s can be operated for close to the same cost as a 50 seater and less than the cost of two 50 seaters that it could replace. Half the frequency but passengers would much prefer to ride on a mainline aircraft than ANY RJ.
The majors will survive just fine when the day comes (and it will) when all RJ feed no longer exists.

I've commuted a LOT. Riding on an RJ is pure misery, worse than a middle seat even if wedged between the 350lb POS and the new mother with the screaming poop factory.

As far as shorting UAL stock, go for it. For me, it's in no man's land. I wouldn't touch it right now on the long or short side. If it gets to the low 60s, I'd buy. In today's markets, I wouldn't go short anything. Even if there were a stock named, 'career RJ pilot'.

Hahahah! That's rich! Good one! Almost as entertaining as the Skyw dude!
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Old 01-24-2018 | 03:10 PM
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Assuming Sky is a millenial, I hope he is not representative of the majority.

EDIT: and add "Truthanator" to the above comment

EDIT EDIT: actually looking over Truth's posting history I see he is an ole timer at the regionals and not a millenial so disregard that, but Truth I only looked at 2 or 3 of your posts and all I can say is: Life will be a LOT nicer for you if you would be nicer in life. Now go ahead and feel free to slug at me because I am sure that will make you feel better.
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Old 01-24-2018 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy
MasterOfPuppets was spot on.

Tell me more about regional feed. RJ CASM is the highest in aviation; A319s can be operated for close to the same cost as a 50 seater and less than the cost of two 50 seaters that it could replace. Half the frequency but passengers would much prefer to ride on a mainline aircraft than ANY RJ.
The majors will survive just fine when the day comes (and it will) when all RJ feed no longer exists.

I've commuted a LOT. Riding on an RJ is pure misery, worse than a middle seat even if wedged between the 350lb POS and the new mother with the screaming poop factory.

As far as shorting UAL stock, go for it. For me, it's in no man's land. I wouldn't touch it right now on the long or short side. If it gets to the low 60s, I'd buy. In today's markets, I wouldn't go short anything. Even if there were a stock named, 'career RJ pilot'.
LCCs are going to kill mainline! It's math. Pax have no desire to pay a few dollars extra for mainline flights that offer nothing special in terms of value. LCCs will have an easy time recruiting new pilots in the future because they are growing fast and offer quick upgrades. Look at European LCCs, all they hire is 20 year olds flying 737s and paying them as much as RJ pilots make in the US. Norwegian Air is expanding like crazy in the US. Captains make 10,000 a month with only 10 days off/mo. FOs make 5500/mo. It's a cool airplane to fly so they are having no issues staffing the bases with RJ pilots that couldn't get hired at mainline. There is a reason United stock went down 12% today. You can thank the LCCs!
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Old 01-24-2018 | 03:50 PM
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LCCs are going to kill mainline! It's math. Pax have no desire to pay a few dollars extra for mainline flights that offer nothing special in terms of value. LCCs will have an easy time recruiting new pilots in the future because they are growing fast and offer quick upgrades. Look at European LCCs, all they hire is 20 year olds flying 737s and paying them as much as RJ pilots make in the US. Norwegian Air is expanding like crazy in the US. Captains make 10,000 a month with only 10 days off/mo. FOs make 5500/mo. It's a cool airplane to fly so they are having no issues staffing the bases with RJ pilots that couldn't get hired at mainline. There is a reason United stock went down 12% today. You can thank the LCCs!
You have it all backwards. You say LCC’s will have no trouble hiring pilots. Where do they get pilots when the majors hire them? They obviously won’t stay at a place with low pay and no QOL. United stock took a hit because it means bad news for the LCC’s. Wall Street invests in LCC’s too and when UA grows it hurts them. All your angst is directed in the wrong direction. You strike me as the type who may like it over at NAI. You should check it out. LCC’s here and abroad have their niche, the t-shirt and beanie crowd, but they won’t make a dent in UA, AA, DL or WN. Question where do LCC’s get there feed when they fly point to point? They don’t have feed. Where are their high end business travelers and corporate accounts? They don’t have any. Good luck kid.
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Old 01-24-2018 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Half wing
You have it all backwards. You say LCC’s will have no trouble hiring pilots. Where do they get pilots when the majors hire them? They obviously won’t stay at a place with low pay and no QOL. United stock took a hit because it means bad news for the LCC’s. Wall Street invests in LCC’s too and when UA grows it hurts them. All your angst is directed in the wrong direction. You strike me as the type who may like it over at NAI. You should check it out. LCC’s here and abroad have their niche, the t-shirt and beanie crowd, but they won’t make a dent in UA, AA, DL or WN. Question where do LCC’s get there feed when they fly point to point? They don’t have feed. Where are their high end business travelers and corporate accounts? They don’t have any. Good luck kid.
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Southwest has been around for over 4 decades and the majors are still here. Most major passengers wouldn't be caught dead on a SWA plane and vice versa. Thank goodness. The threat to UAL, AA, and DAL is not RJs but foreign carriers. Just as foreign cargo killed the Merchant Marine so too foreign pilots MAY kill US majors and if that doesn't work automation surely will. Honestly, if I were 30 or younger I would NOT consider aviation as a career.
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Old 01-24-2018 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyw
LCCs are going to kill mainline! It's math. Pax have no desire to pay a few dollars extra for mainline flights that offer nothing special in terms of value. LCCs will have an easy time recruiting new pilots in the future because they are growing fast and offer quick upgrades. Look at European LCCs, all they hire is 20 year olds flying 737s and paying them as much as RJ pilots make in the US. Norwegian Air is expanding like crazy in the US. Captains make 10,000 a month with only 10 days off/mo. FOs make 5500/mo. It's a cool airplane to fly so they are having no issues staffing the bases with RJ pilots that couldn't get hired at mainline. There is a reason United stock went down 12% today. You can thank the LCCs!

We all had a super secret meeting and decided you don’t have any clue what your talking about.

Youre out of your element Donny.
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Old 01-24-2018 | 05:04 PM
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Old 01-24-2018 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
Youre out of your element Donny.
One of the greatest movies of all time.
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Old 01-24-2018 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
Most major passengers wouldn't be caught dead on a SWA plane and vice versa.
While I agree with the rest of your post, you’re way off base here. Behind the first class curtains, most passengers don’t care about much beyond price and schedule. And not only is SW a “major,” but I think it is now technically a US “flag” carrier.
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Old 01-24-2018 | 05:55 PM
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Yeah, well, you know that’s just like, uh your opinion, man
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