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07-18-2023 | 12:33 PM

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Anybody know if the 73 typically goes to the bottom of the class or is it relatively mixed?

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It has honestly been all over the place on these initial bids. Widebody (when they're there) going 1st and last. 737 top, middle, bottom. Everything is just all over the place. Each class has different people with different wants.

07-18-2023 | 12:50 PM

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Anybody know if the 73 typically goes to the bottom of the class or is it relatively mixed?

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It's a real crapshoot lately. The bottom 10 people today got 756 SFO. I've seen the Bus go to the bottom, but I've also seen it go senior (like today). I wouldn't count on getting the Bus, though. There haven't been very many vacancies for new hires, and even in the classes that do have them there aren't many.

07-18-2023 | 02:32 PM

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Anybody know if the 73 typically goes to the bottom of the class or is it relatively mixed?

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like other have said, it’s a crap shoot., try not to put too much thought into it because you won’t have much say being the age you are. United gives the older guys better seniority for new hires, for better or worse.

07-19-2023 | 12:18 AM

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Well ... one day Hertz will rent you a car and you can also bid the bus. But for now ... get zen with the guppy

07-19-2023 | 02:11 AM

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Anybody know if the 73 typically goes to the bottom of the class or is it relatively mixed?

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A younger than 25 year old typed on the bus who doesn't want to go to the 73

If you can't handle the 737 for two years of your 40 to 42 year UAL career.... idk what to tell ya.

07-19-2023 | 11:46 AM

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If you want to stay on the bus for 40 years, stay at F9.

Your last plane will be a Boeing, might as well start learning.

07-20-2023 | 04:38 AM

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Now that the AIP has been released, does anyone have any insight as to how class drops might change? When is the next system bid and do you suspect some of the NB CA seats will start to get filled?

07-20-2023 | 05:01 AM

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If you can't handle the 737 for two years of your 40 to 42 year UAL career.... idk what to tell ya.

how bad can the 73 be? Lol

07-20-2023 | 05:06 AM

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Now that the AIP has been released, does anyone have any insight as to how class drops might change? When is the next system bid and do you suspect some of the NB CA seats will start to get filled?

Unlikely the drops change significantly. They’re mostly nb fo and will stay that way. If commuting/reserve gets better, expect the wbfo spots to migrate back senior.

Nbca changes will slowly happen over a year depending on details on paper and real life and airframe deliveries.

Next system bid will probably be within a month to staff winter training for summer ‘24 flying

07-20-2023 | 07:36 AM

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Thanks for that. Working my way through a lot of info here, so apologies if this has been posted numerous times. But, how does seniority progression look in the long term? If I’m not mistaken, the pilot group is around 16,500 strong with a desire to reach 28,000 in the next decade? Is that a realistic goal? Looks like mando retirements start to rise from 2026-2031 timeframe (7400 mandos from today until then).

What barriers do you see for someone interested in joining UAL today? Articles I see don’t indicate any slow down due to known economic performance in the near term. I’d be bidding mid-pack due to my age and more interested in QOL and seniority than big WB money right away.