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07-11-2023 | 06:35 AM

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Brickfire

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Originally Posted by ketchup

Could someone post what the most junior EWR NB line holder and WB line holder is?

Roughly 9 months and 2 years. that is reflective of 50 pilot/week hiring since summer 2021 and may not hold going forward.

07-11-2023 | 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by stormostorm

Nothing if you bid up to WB (78,77) or go from FO to CA on any fleet. Every seat lock in the company is the same to lateral or move down pay rates, two years.

lateral in base is a 3 year equipment lock.

07-11-2023 | 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by C340

Lets say I get a job offer this Friday and become a WB FO commuting from PDX to do global reserve in SFO or DEN or LAX. Could you take a stab at which of those three bases and which aircraft type (if I even have a say in that) would provide the best QOL?

The 777 going to new hires train has left the station. Pilots on property for 6 months were unable to get it on the last couple vacancies. You may have a chance of getting EWR 787 FO in indoc as it has been offered every once in a while, or get NB and get it or SFO 787 FO in a subsequent vacancy. If you get WB in SFO via this route, you will be commuting to reserve for a very long time. So to answer your question, you MAY get 787 WB in SFO eventually, then your QOL commuting to reserve will be bad. You won't hold WB in DEN or LAX your first year and by then, so many things may have changed it is unpredictable to give you a read on how QOL would be.

756 SFO and LAX on the other hand go more junior (756 SFO sometimes offered to new hires) and are not Global Reserve, just Basic Reserve in those bases.

07-11-2023 | 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TenaciousB

9 unfilled SFO 777 FO slots and 4 unfilled SFO 787 FO slots on today's snapshot, so maybe the next train is coming into the station. We will know for sure next week.

07-11-2023 | 10:29 AM

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C340

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Originally Posted by GoCats67

9 unfilled SFO 777 FO slots and 4 unfilled SFO 787 FO slots on today's snapshot, so maybe the next train is coming into the station. We will know for sure next week.

When are aircraft assignments given to new hires?

07-11-2023 | 10:34 AM

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PK387

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When are aircraft assignments given to new hires?

Just after lunch on day one of indoc

07-11-2023 | 11:03 AM

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TenaciousB

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Originally Posted by GoCats67

9 unfilled SFO 777 FO slots and 4 unfilled SFO 787 FO slots on today's snapshot, so maybe the next train is coming into the station. We will know for sure next week.

It's usually that way for the first few snapshots and then senior people put their bids in. Many do so on the very last day. At least that has happened the last 2 or 3 times. Anything can happen though.

07-11-2023 | 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TenaciousB

That usually what happens every bid. The final is what will help paint the picture of the trend. But I agree, WB offer to NH train has started to apply its brakes. If a WB is offered to a NH, it will likely be SFO or EWR/SFO 787.

07-11-2023 | 04:02 PM

#3149

Plabelover

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Originally Posted by Swakid8

once that train stops, how long would it take a NH to get to a WB out of EWR?

07-11-2023 | 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brickfire

Narrowbody pilots fly multiple legs, rest 12 hours, fly multiple legs, rest 12 hours, fly multiple legs home
Every time you fly a leg (double transiting a base) there’s an opportunity for trouble.

This is patently false.

There are plenty of trips that are rough, almost none are built like this, and even with delays and reassignments few are flown like this.

There is incredible variety in NB flying, at least at EWR: Alaska, CONUS, Caribbean, Central America, Canada, Mexico, Northern South America, and probably Europe soon. 2-leg 2-days with 25 hours off, yep; 6-leg 4-days with 35 hours off, yep; and 2-leg 1-days that pay 9+ hours, yep. There’s crap on every fleet, WB included, NB has crap too but with 6-12 months seniority it’s pretty dam good.