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03-19-2023, 05:31 AM
#2641
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Originally Posted by lionsfan07
What are the differences in flying on the 320 vs the 737? Legs per day, layover time and time to hold ORD
every mainland narrow-body base can be held within a few months
03-19-2023, 06:22 AM
#2642
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Originally Posted by lionsfan07
What are the differences in flying on the 320 vs the 737? Legs per day, layover time and time to hold ORD
Airbus xlr will probably go senior when it gets here.
03-19-2023, 06:39 AM
#2643
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Originally Posted by KnightNight
737 has more island and Central America than Airbus. 737 is def the growing fleet so qol will be better long term.
Airbus xlr will probably go senior when it gets here.
Airbus xlr will probably go senior when it gets here.
It’ll go senior for a few bid periods, then the attraction of 15-hr 3-days will wear off. Just my guess.
03-20-2023, 11:36 AM
#2644
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
It’ll go senior for a few bid periods, then the attraction of 15-hr 3-days will wear off. Just my guess.
the rest of the Airbus bases may see a few if a route requires it for length and or lay flat seats (looking at you Hawaii or South America)
but a 15 hour 3 day already is the norm at least for DC. So a two leg trip vs 6-10 legs for the same pay is usually more desirable.
and the 321 will be flying slower then what currently goes transatlantic. A 756 trip to DUB pays 15:10. Add probably another 30 mins to that for a 321. CDG on a 777 pays 16. So a 321 doing similar lengths would pay much more each trip since it can’t do .84 but only .80 under the best of circumstances.
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03-20-2023, 12:01 PM
#2645
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Originally Posted by lionsfan07
What are the differences in flying on the 320 vs the 737?
03-20-2023, 12:03 PM
#2646
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Originally Posted by C11DCA
realistically EWR and IAD will see the majority of the XLR’s as they will replace current 757 flying and augment existing international routes (if slots available) and new international markets.
the rest of the Airbus bases may see a few if a route requires it for length and or lay flat seats (looking at you Hawaii or South America)
but a 15 hour 3 day already is the norm at least for DC. So a two leg trip vs 6-10 legs for the same pay is usually more desirable.
and the 321 will be flying slower then what currently goes transatlantic. A 756 trip to DUB pays 15:10. Add probably another 30 mins to that for a 321. CDG on a 777 pays 16. So a 321 doing similar lengths would pay much more each trip since it can’t do .84 but only .80 under the best of circumstances.
Work smarter, not harder.
the rest of the Airbus bases may see a few if a route requires it for length and or lay flat seats (looking at you Hawaii or South America)
but a 15 hour 3 day already is the norm at least for DC. So a two leg trip vs 6-10 legs for the same pay is usually more desirable.
and the 321 will be flying slower then what currently goes transatlantic. A 756 trip to DUB pays 15:10. Add probably another 30 mins to that for a 321. CDG on a 777 pays 16. So a 321 doing similar lengths would pay much more each trip since it can’t do .84 but only .80 under the best of circumstances.
Work smarter, not harder.
5:20 (or 5:30) Per pay Day is so important!
Higher International Override
Night Override
3 man (and/or wo) on any ETOPS Flight
are so important.
When you don't think "they will do that".. they will if it's in the Contract and given a chance.
No doubt that the 321's will replace the 752's before the end of the next contract, and that the 78's will replace the 763's when we are passed the next contracts Amendable date.
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03-20-2023, 12:04 PM
#2647
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Originally Posted by C11DCA
realistically EWR and IAD will see the majority of the XLR’s as they will replace current 757 flying and augment existing international routes (if slots available) and new international markets.
the rest of the Airbus bases may see a few if a route requires it for length and or lay flat seats (looking at you Hawaii or South America)
but a 15 hour 3 day already is the norm at least for DC. So a two leg trip vs 6-10 legs for the same pay is usually more desirable.
and the 321 will be flying slower then what currently goes transatlantic. A 756 trip to DUB pays 15:10. Add probably another 30 mins to that for a 321. CDG on a 777 pays 16. So a 321 doing similar lengths would pay much more each trip since it can’t do .84 but only .80 under the best of circumstances.
Work smarter, not harder.
the rest of the Airbus bases may see a few if a route requires it for length and or lay flat seats (looking at you Hawaii or South America)
but a 15 hour 3 day already is the norm at least for DC. So a two leg trip vs 6-10 legs for the same pay is usually more desirable.
and the 321 will be flying slower then what currently goes transatlantic. A 756 trip to DUB pays 15:10. Add probably another 30 mins to that for a 321. CDG on a 777 pays 16. So a 321 doing similar lengths would pay much more each trip since it can’t do .84 but only .80 under the best of circumstances.
Work smarter, not harder.
03-20-2023, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
Maybe, junior guys are getting 5-hours per day…Haven’t looked at DC, but senior guys don’t do 5 hours per day at EWR.
Block hours per duty day
EWR averages 5:08 (only 2 trips average greater then 6 hours per duty)
IAD averages 5:18 (7 trips average greater then 6 per duty)
Yes that is block time, not credit but that’s all the stats that are available.
03-20-2023, 02:48 PM
#2649
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Originally Posted by C11DCA
it’s not broken down per seniority but for 3day trips in April:
Block hours per duty day
EWR averages 5:08 (only 2 trips average greater then 6 hours per duty)
IAD averages 5:18 (7 trips average greater then 6 per duty)
Yes that is block time, not credit but that’s all the stats that are available.
Block hours per duty day
EWR averages 5:08 (only 2 trips average greater then 6 hours per duty)
IAD averages 5:18 (7 trips average greater then 6 per duty)
Yes that is block time, not credit but that’s all the stats that are available.
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