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Old 03-22-2023 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GPullR
So junior line holders can get 20 days off??

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I just looked… bottom LHs are in the 79-80 hr pay credit range with 15 days off…
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Old 03-25-2023 | 01:27 PM
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What's the timeline for DEN787 FO...I know I know "forever" but realistically....
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Old 03-25-2023 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by aviator1998
What's the timeline for DEN787 FO...I know I know "forever" but realistically....
Currently about 80% system seniority. Lineholder is pushing 50%
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Old 03-25-2023 | 06:24 PM
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What is generally the age breakdown for classes? How long would it roughly take for someone in the 25-30 age range to get 756 or above in EWR?
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Old 03-25-2023 | 06:36 PM
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Mid-20's to late 50's. Varies from class to class. As for the aircraft, it's possible to get in indoc, but it depends on what they are offering. Otherwise, possibly at the next vacancy bid or two. It's too hard to predict beyond that, but should be fairly fast.
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Old 03-25-2023 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by eagleatr
Mid-20's to late 50's. Varies from class to class. As for the aircraft, it's possible to get in indoc, but it depends on what they are offering. Otherwise, possibly at the next vacancy bid or two. It's too hard to predict beyond that, but should be fairly fast.
Thanks for that. Is it more concentrated at the low end of the age range? It seems like they have younger classes than other legacies, but I could be wrong.
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Old 03-25-2023 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ObiOne
Thanks for that. Is it more concentrated at the low end of the age range? It seems like they have younger classes than other legacies, but I could be wrong.
This data point is a year old, but the average in my class was probably 36-37. Being 30 would have put you about 80% of the way down the list, and I think our most junior was 25.
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Old 03-25-2023 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ObiOne
Thanks for that. Is it more concentrated at the low end of the age range? It seems like they have younger classes than other legacies, but I could be wrong.
Just to clarify, you are senior to everyone older than you hired seven days later. Who cares if your number 20 or 30 in class when you have 4000 junior to you in 2 years. Every class is random, roughly half retired military, half regional. You may be on average, someone 25 years old will be in the bottom 10 percent seniority for their class. So being that junior in class you will probably get the 756/777/787 in EWR. You have to be senior to hold 737 or 320 in class. Probably the average age other legacies hire is within a year or two of UA.
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Old 03-25-2023 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Half wing
Just to clarify, you are senior to everyone older than you hired seven days later. Who cares if your number 20 or 30 in class when you have 4000 junior to you in 2 years. Every class is random, roughly half retired military, half regional. You may be on average, someone 25 years old will be in the bottom 10 percent seniority for their class. So being that junior in class you will probably get the 756/777/787 in EWR. You have to be senior to hold 737 or 320 in class. Probably the average age other legacies hire is within a year or two of UA.
I agree with that and understand the concept. My point in asking is to figure the demographics of those who would be senior. There's a big difference between 50% of the 3000 hired post-covid being 25 years old vs 45 years old.

And thanks for that info.
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Old 03-26-2023 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by aviator1998
What's the timeline for DEN787 FO...I know I know "forever" but realistically....
It's a smaller group with just 100 people. The junior DEN 787 FO was a spring 2022 hire. The junior line holder at 80% seniority is a 2016 hire. A realistic outlook is that you will spend a few years waiting on your bid to make the cut in a vacancy. You will spend the next 5+ years watching people with higher seniority bid ahead of you on the list.
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