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Old 07-21-2023 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
Why is it only United pilots who think this. Most of you came from the regionals correct? You should know better. You won’t be “absorbing the majority of regional flying”. The routes will just disappear.
The cities that can only support 100 seats a day have disappeared.

There's a decent amount of consolidation that can happen in markets that had 500-1000 seats a day but it was 4 flight/houston, 4 flights/chicago, 2 flights/dulles, 3 flights/newark all on RJ. Maybe they go to 3 hubs now with 2X 737 and 4X RJ
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Old 07-21-2023 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Brickfire
Predicting seniority progression in the long run is a fool’s errand.

But i don’t see anywhere else that has a compelling case they will beat United over 10-20 years. So i would reframe your question more as: “ will my current job or CJO x be better in 2035?”
Originally Posted by Swindler128
This a hundred times
At 40 I guess I'm on the higher side but how much more hiring is really going to happen ya always my question and has the ship sailed. If united has hired 5000 so far that as you say nearly accounts for all retirements then just growth ?

I know I've asked this a few times in different places but the just crazy hiring is terrifying at 40. At 20 it's a no brainer

Edit. The next 5 years of retirements only come out to 3000+ so we're already at plus 2000 hires in 2028
Swindler: I think Brickfire hits the nail on the head with 2035. Do I/ you think JetBlue/Sspirit will be better than United then. For you/me ORD:EWR. I don’t think it will. I don’t think there will be as much growth there as you are being sold……I’ve made my decision already.
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Old 07-21-2023 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LJ Driver
Flying a Max 8 uses far less fuel than a regional, that’s why. Same reason we passed on the Max 7, got an incredible deal on the airplane and uses about the same fuel at cruise. The routes won’t totally disappear, they will be consolidated into 1-2 mainline flights.
Several of the routes were not consolidated into any mainline flights.

https://www.businessinsider.com/unit...es-2022-3?op=1

mid size cities like RAP, FSD, FAR, etc will lose 4 RJs and have them replaced by 2 737s, but a lot of the smaller cities won't see that.
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Old 07-21-2023 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
Several of the routes were not consolidated into any mainline flights.

https://www.businessinsider.com/unit...es-2022-3?op=1

mid size cities like RAP, FSD, FAR, etc will lose 4 RJs and have them replaced by 2 737s, but a lot of the smaller cities won't see that.
These aren’t small cities, they’re barely towns. they can’t even support 50 seat RJ’s without lighting taxpayer dollars on fire via EAS money. I’m happy to see them go.

Look at places like Decatur, IL. It’s an hour drive to Springfield. We shouldn’t be wasting the time, pollution, or taxpayer dollars to fly a 50 seat RJ to a place that can’t support it economically and has a viable airport within driving distance.
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Old 07-21-2023 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
Swindler: I think Brickfire hits the nail on the head with 2035. Do I/ you think JetBlue/Sspirit will be better than United then. For you/me ORD:EWR. I don’t think it will. I don’t think there will be as much growth there as you are being sold……I’ve made my decision already.

I get that but what I'm saying is in 10 years will 5 of those for ex be just shunted behind the hires that have occured already. This is the question I can't figure out
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Old 07-22-2023 | 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Swindler128
I get that but what I'm saying is in 10 years will 5 of those for ex be just shunted behind the hires that have occured already. This is the question I can't figure out
The post-covid hiring has been majority growth with maybe some pilot hoarding for future retirements. I don’t think we’re to the junior-for-decades part of hiring yet in 2023.
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Old 07-22-2023 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
Yeah, I did 5000 hours in the E145 and 8000 in the B737. I don’t get the complaints. On the 756 I’m always telling my fo’s how the 737 does this or that better and they don’t believe me. The avionics and VNAV are much better than the 756. Plus, I miss the destinations.
With 700 airframes soon to be on property, good luck avoiding it.
I’ve got my list of the several things the 737 does better than the 756 also. VNAV is for sure one of them!
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Old 07-23-2023 | 01:12 AM
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Interesting note: next week class has only 737 and 320 options. First time I can remember that there were ONLY those two.

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320 EWR/IAH/SFO

737 IAH/EWR

No numbers yet.
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Old 07-23-2023 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JTwift
Interesting note: next week class has only 737 and 320 options. First time I can remember that there were ONLY those two.

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320 EWR/IAH/SFO

737 IAH/EWR

No numbers yet.
What would you attribute this to? Any conclusions to be drawn? Speculations you may have?
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Old 07-23-2023 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
What would you attribute this to? Any conclusions to be drawn? Speculations you may have?
No, it’s just where the greatest amount of leftovers are from the most recent vacancy. That’s how it works.
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