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Old 04-04-2023 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Imapylot
Why does WB tend to go junior in many new hire classes? I’m guessing I’m thinking about it all wrong because I’d assume WB would go senior but I’m obviously not wrapping my head around it the right way.
It goes junior because global reserve sucks. I love WB flying but chose NB because commuting to the coasts on global reserve would ruin me and my family.
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Old 04-04-2023 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
And 3… unless you already live near SFO or EWR, other locations tend to be more affordable,
And 4- seat locks. If you get a 73 or 320 or 756 and hate it, you can be in something new 4 months later. Take WB straight away and you’re stuck for 2 years unless you bid for captain or get lucky and a new base comes along.
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Old 04-04-2023 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
So you’re saying anyone over two years can hold a WB line and it still goes vacant?
No I’m saying if you get 777 as a new hire you are seat locked for two years
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Old 04-04-2023 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Imapylot
Why does WB tend to go junior in many new hire classes? I’m guessing I’m thinking about it all wrong because I’d assume WB would go senior but I’m obviously not wrapping my head around it the right way.
there are a lot of reasons that have been previously mentioned. I have warned more than a few new hire friends against bidding for the wide body. However coming from the military, wide body flying is what they said they were used to and wanted the long haul flying. All of them have come back and said they wish they had taken my advice.
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Old 04-04-2023 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by GEARPINSOUT
It goes junior because global reserve sucks. I love WB flying but chose NB because commuting to the coasts on global reserve would ruin me and my family.
What is it about commuting to global reserve that makes it worse than commuting to regular reserve? I understand the ability to have some of your days off moved, which is obviously a big deal, but is there anything else specifically?
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Old 04-04-2023 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Brickfire
No I’m saying if you get 777 as a new hire you are seat locked for two years
Not sure if this is 100% true.
You are able to bid Left Seat once your probation is over (and some other caveats).
You are seat locked with regards to bidding into another aircraft that pays same or less.
Right seat to Left seat pays more.

oh, and there is also something about new bases being opened that does away with certain seat locks.

That being written- any newhire who gets a 78/77 FO slot in BI can expect to be there until the 2 yr time frame expires UNLESS they consider TPA as a “new base” once it’s allowed to be a satellite base of MCO- with a new TA.

Also have to wonder if we won’t be looking at PHX or BOS by the end of next year…

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Old 04-04-2023 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
Man, I have a bridge to sell you otherwise. Folks aren’t making career decisions between legacies because of contracts…. That’s short term factor when it comes to making a decision that will impact you for the long term….
Do you actually believe 9 people in one class lives in either a AA or DL base??
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Old 04-04-2023 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK
What is it about commuting to global reserve that makes it worse than commuting to regular reserve? I understand the ability to have some of your days off moved, which is obviously a big deal, but is there anything else specifically?
I was 756 EWR back in 2015 when things were a little slower but I would assume it was equivalent to what 777 787 now. There are pluses to it such as most flights left at night so commuting to an actual flying assignment was easier. Problem I ran into was just the lack up trips available to pick up, that along with being junior, meant A LOT more nights at the crash pad/ hotel than my 737 a320 friends. The crash pad was filled with 756 guys, while the 737 guys were out flying in hotel rooms bought by the company. Also yes your days can get moved around a high can be rough on the family life. Also, the 6 days that are immovable by the company must be 6 days in a row. So while you do get one nice stretch of days off, the rest of the time expect something like 5 on 2 off.

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Old 04-04-2023 | 09:44 AM
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4/4 Class Drop
22x B737 (EWR up to 5, ORD up to 5, IAH unlimited)
19x B756 (EWR)
3x B777 (SFO)
3x B787 (EWR)
15x A320 (EWR unlimited, SFO unlimited)

Good news for anybody wanting a tray table!
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Old 04-04-2023 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by GPullR
Do you actually believe 9 people in one class lives in either a AA or DL base??
Yes, very likely since United has a habit of poaching Delta and AA WO pilots…. You also have folks who may have preferences and towards AA and DAL bases for one reason or another….

Folks aren’t making career decisions with a contract in mind when it comes to legacies.

You act as if United is on the level of ACMI and regional carriers when it comes to making career decisions based on contracts….. You also act as if United terrible…. If it’s that horrible, why did you choose to come or stay here in the first place?

Look here, United is far from perfect, but let’s not act as if AA or DL don’t have their issues either…. Folks are going to choose the carriers that best fit their lifestyle at the end of the day at this point.
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