New Hire Classes and Drops
#2751
Sorry if I'm being slow to understand, but are you saying people often have all LC days used for something else (SC, FSB, or flight), or are you saying people often have all LC days remain as unused LC?
(I swear, I'm smart in other ways, but I'm sometimes very dense on bidding/seniority/etc for some reason!)
(I swear, I'm smart in other ways, but I'm sometimes very dense on bidding/seniority/etc for some reason!)
#2752
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From: MEC Chairman, Snack Basket Committee
#2753
Can reserve be better, yes. Will it get better next contract, somewhat. If you think they will stop rolling days off and lesson # SCs assigned you are smoking something. Best we will see for global reserve is add pay for rolling days off, get rid of FSBs on global (don’t see those anyway), and add pay for all SCs (not just after first two). Domestic reserves already have hard days off, already get jammed with SCs and FSBs… maybe, just maybe they’ll cap these… but honestly domestic reserves is not gonna change much based on last NC update. Sounds like you’ll be really disappointed with the next contract.
#2754
#2755
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From: MEC Chairman, Snack Basket Committee
My buddies at DAL make well north of 100 credit on rsv flying a little less than I do now. Its ridiculously better.
#2756
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you start with 18x LC… during a LC they can assign you a trip (14 hours notice), SC (10 or 12 hours notice), or FSB (12 hours notice I think). Depends on the fleet, seat, and base how often you get trips and SC/FSBs. I’ll give you a example using my schedule as a reserve Captain on global for Jan-Mar: I was away on trips 6 days a month on average… and sat SC 5 days out of the remaining 12 reserve days (out of 18). So on average I flew 6 days, SC 5 days, and sat LC reserve 7 days… and played golf 6 days per month (wx stopped me from playing 3 extra days).
#2757
Okay, thank you very much for the details. Your concrete example is very helpful to my understanding. That actually sounds not too bad (about half time home as a commuter). I was just concerned I could end up away from home 18 days a month (or maybe more if I had to commute the day before or after)!
#2758
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Sorry if I'm being slow to understand, but are you saying people often have all LC days used for something else (SC, FSB, or flight), or are you saying people often have all LC days remain as unused LC?
(I swear, I'm smart in other ways, but I'm sometimes very dense on bidding/seniority/etc for some reason!)
(I swear, I'm smart in other ways, but I'm sometimes very dense on bidding/seniority/etc for some reason!)

Welcome to the brotherhood of, "Well, commuting IS a choice. I lived through it, you can too. There are bigger things than trying to get industry standard(Delta) reserve rules. Suck it up buttercup"

Hope this provides a little clarity. Totally diff story on WB or if you live in base, it's much more palatable
#2759
Line Holder
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From: It's a plane and it's a seat
Current UAX non-WO FO here!
As part of my Major Research, I just wanted to get the most current and reliable way to get ORD as soon as possible out of training. Tracking the NH drops, looks like going the 737 route seems to be the quickest?
For reference, I'm expecting to be the 8-ball in class. Would that push me towards WB EWR and away from a vacancy/base trade to ORD?
What about 787 in ORD? What kind of hire date are we seeing on ORD FOs? Thanks!
As part of my Major Research, I just wanted to get the most current and reliable way to get ORD as soon as possible out of training. Tracking the NH drops, looks like going the 737 route seems to be the quickest?
For reference, I'm expecting to be the 8-ball in class. Would that push me towards WB EWR and away from a vacancy/base trade to ORD?
What about 787 in ORD? What kind of hire date are we seeing on ORD FOs? Thanks!
B737 or A320 would get you to ORD the fastest. If you get forced to a WB as a new hire good luck
#2760
Can reserve be better, yes. Will it get better next contract, somewhat. If you think they will stop rolling days off and lesson # SCs assigned you are smoking something. Best we will see for global reserve is add pay for rolling days off, get rid of FSBs on global (don’t see those anyway), and add pay for all SCs (not just after first two). Domestic reserves already have hard days off, already get jammed with SCs and FSBs… maybe, just maybe they’ll cap these… but honestly domestic reserves is not gonna change much based on last NC update. Sounds like you’ll be really disappointed with the next contract.
Yes, if the agreed items are the only changes (or non-changes) to the contract, then yes, I will be very disappointed. Read the room, dude. Most of us will be disappointed, and that goes far beyond just reserve rules.
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