New Hire Classes and Drops
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I met a ~26 year Airbus captain at the Doubletree the night before we bid at indoc. She was selling the Airbus pretty hard and I asked why she hadn't taken a widebody slot with that much seniority. She calmly and very seriously replied that United "doesn't have any widebodies for her to bid into".
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I met a ~26 year Airbus captain at the Doubletree the night before we bid at indoc. She was selling the Airbus pretty hard and I asked why she hadn't taken a widebody slot with that much seniority. She calmly and very seriously replied that United "doesn't have any widebodies for her to bid into".
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I met a ~26 year Airbus captain at the Doubletree the night before we bid at indoc. She was selling the Airbus pretty hard and I asked why she hadn't taken a widebody slot with that much seniority. She calmly and very seriously replied that United "doesn't have any widebodies for her to bid into".
#4276
I met a ~26 year Airbus captain at the Doubletree the night before we bid at indoc. She was selling the Airbus pretty hard and I asked why she hadn't taken a widebody slot with that much seniority. She calmly and very seriously replied that United "doesn't have any widebodies for her to bid into".
#4277
She may be too junior to hold wide-body captain. I’ve been here over 18 years and am still about 2,000 numbers away from holding widebody captain anywhere. And people hired at United 7 years before me are only a couple of hundred numbers senior to me. So a person hired at United in 2000/2001 (pretty close to 26 years) may not be able to hold widebody captain. I’m referring to 777/787 - if you mean 757, then by all means she can easily hold it in most bases.
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The missions and trip build of UA's narrowbody fleet currently varies depending on base AND is rapidly evolving:
Airbus:
319s and 320s on lower density, shorter, and regional replacement routes (fleet most rapidly being parked)
321 NEOs (PW) currently on high density domestic routes from mid-continent (ORD, DEN, and growing in IAH) hubs
321 NEOs (LEAP) replacing possibly west coast Hawaii and transcon 757s when they arrive (with its slightly increased fuel)
321 XLR becomes the 757 replacement eventually when a critical mass arrives
B737:
737s backbone of domestic fleet with domestic strongholds EWR, ORD, IAH, DEN serving destinations all throughout US, Canada, Latin America, Caribbean
737-800s taking up more and more of the formerly regional or 319/320 flying mid-continent as some 321s take over -900ER routes
EWR 737 has some of the best narrowbody trip builds, with ORD, IAH, DEN more legs/day on average
SFO and DC currently lean toward the 737 (3 to 1 ratio to Airbus staffing) with 737 having longer stage length, with Airbus on smaller and shorter routes
#4279
There are a handful of airbus new hire class instructors telling the horrors of the 73. You can complain all you want about the guppy in Aruba while they get a tray table doing Fargo turns talking about maybe getting short Europe three days at min guarantee “next year.” Guppy people have a tan and have seen a flamingo while at work. The airbus people are taking photos of a flamingo in Vegas.
Either one is awesome but the airbus people get excited about Epcot to visit Canada.
Either one is awesome but the airbus people get excited about Epcot to visit Canada.
Certainly the 737 has a wider selection of flying but the constant touting of amazing layovers is just crap. I see the 73 in OMA, BOI, FSD, etc... The only people getting the "flamingo views" on their layovers are the top 10% or so. For a new-hire bidding in indoc, the layovers will be pretty much the same on either fleet until seniority builds.
Having flown multiple stints on both types (3 on the 737 and 2 on the 320), the 320 is by far much more comfortable. Sure, you might only be flying one leg a day on the 737 but who wants to sit in that thing for 7 hours from EWR to LAX? (I've done it and it sucks.)
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Certainly the 737 has a wider selection of flying but the constant touting of amazing layovers is just crap. I see the 73 in OMA, BOI, FSD, etc... The only people getting the "flamingo views" on their layovers are the top 10% or so. For a new-hire bidding in indoc, the layovers will be pretty much the same on either fleet until seniority builds.
Having flown multiple stints on both types (3 on the 737 and 2 on the 320), the 320 is by far much more comfortable. Sure, you might only be flying one leg a day on the 737 but who wants to sit in that thing for 7 hours from EWR to LAX? (I've done it and it sucks.)
Having flown multiple stints on both types (3 on the 737 and 2 on the 320), the 320 is by far much more comfortable. Sure, you might only be flying one leg a day on the 737 but who wants to sit in that thing for 7 hours from EWR to LAX? (I've done it and it sucks.)
The advantage the 737 has is largely the seniority and quantity. People just don’t want to leave the bus.
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