You didn't quote anyone for a reason. Point to anyones post in this thread that said the opposite of what you're saying. You're making an argument that no one has countered. My point is that there has been many differences between what management has told us and what we've actually ended up with.

Ok...... just figured I’d post some real numbers for people to look at in a NEW HIRE thread. I like being positive. Which is why I haven’t logged in here for a while. I’m not going to argue anymore with you or beewatcher or 757driver......it’s just not worth it. Have a nice night.

See, you think we're arguing but we're not. I haven't said what you posted wasn't true. We're making two separate points. If you go back and see what I have written in this thread it's been a direct reply to what someone else has said.

This is a "new hire thread". The fact is that we don't have anymore new hire classes scheduled at this point and have been told that right now we won't have anymore new home classes for the next 7 or 8 months. So yes, it is relevant to the thread and it is the truth. What you've said is true too. Both are true but one makes you feel a negative vibe. It shouldn't.

You have a nice night too.

We’ll see what happens in May. No reason to make a guess of hiring or no hiring until then. We may have classes in June.....

“The pilot requirements going forward are unknown”

MoP, I get some updates on hiring and training (from committee work) that I can't post here. I hope May brings good news too but right now we're being told the signs don't point to an escalation in hiring until sometime late in the year. I hope that changes in May. The company seems to be in the process of maximizing pilot utilization (opinion).

Hope you log your findings in Sharepoint...

:-).........

My apologies had I known you were doing ALPA work for us we could have avoided a lot of back and forth. I just figured you were cynical.

Thanks for putting in the time for the pilot group! I yield the floor to you and will read your posts in a different light.:).

No apologies, floor, or yield necessary. I'm a nobody. We're all brothers and sisters here. Just different personalities with almost identical goals. We all contribute in different ways. My postings here have nothing to do with that. I've just been typing out my observations.

UPA
 

Greetings! Just got hired last week and training likely won't start until the Fall. Can anyone post a link to the ALPA UPA? Thanks in advance.

If you have a CJO, go over to the Half Wingers Facebook page. They have the UPA posted and just about any other document you may need.

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As far as I understand new hire classes are done for the summer... Are we still interviewing into a pool? Also how did we end this last hiring bump from the Apr/May pool of 2017... did everyone get called or are there people still waiting (now more than a year)?

Last Spring got cleaned out.

The March class had December interviews.

I am venturing a guess that most of that "cleaning" was done by Delta and American!

The pool is currently being filled again. I know a few people who interviewed in January that are currently swimming in it. Interviews are still happening too, I know someone who has a may 3rd interview scheduled.

Meh, some.

Was it 1 class in Dec, 2 each for Jan-Feb and 1 March? About 30 new hires per class give or take so about 180 brought on.

Combine the amount in the pool as of the fall last year (about 130) plus the CPP's and not that many left the pool. Maybe 10% AT MOST as I can't remember how many swimmers there were throughout the summer.

Accounting for retirements, bar napkin math says we need to hire about 3500 over the next three years to attain the growth goals laid out at the last earning report given the current trip productivity they’re building.

Right. Think I'll happen? :confused:

Don't worry, we're hiring 1000 a year for the foreseeable future....

And the latest rumor is 100/month minimum for at least the next 3 years, starting in sep/oct. Perhaps even 150/month if Tk can support.
We’ll know in late July/August if Hogans start going out gangbusters. At that point, there won’t be any other measures left to squeeze the turnip. No drastic hiring, no more growth.

Next thing you know they will be planning 18k pilots by 2020

Quite certain I recall a town hall meeting with some mgmt types a few years back speaking of 16,000 pilots by 2018. To their credit, that was when we had 65 737-700s inbound. We all know how that ended.


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With 50 seaters.

Early January CJO here, practicing my backstoke in the pool. Happy to swim as UA is my to choice.

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Did anyone give you any indication of when to expect a class date?

Late Q1 or early-mid Q3. Basically got the gist it was either before or after the summer season.

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It was 17,000 by 2019! Get your misinformation right man!;)

So many rumors, so much misinformation and chaos from the company how could you or anyone else expect any of us to get our misinformation right? Just saying.

When it comes to misinformation mine is the most pure and fresh. I get my misinformation from the source. So if you want 100% non filtered, pure misinformation talk to me. Heck I and heard the 17,000 by 2019 number from Oscar himself! Misinformation doesn’t get any more pure than that.:)

If we just give up scope and allow the purchase of a foreign airline we’ll all be 787 captains by year end. 20,000 pilots flying for United! The only problem is that they won’t be on our list. The company wouldn’t take contract provisions to the limit would they? We should be getting fresh misinformation to talk about as this contract nears the amendable date. Should be entertaining, but the only thing that really matters is what is in the next TA. Until then it’s just speculation.

Ohhh Baby! I'm on the inside track now.

Thanks Hoss.

I'm good for fleet plan, aircraft distribution, training and hiring, future pay rates and work rules. New uniform details, future routes, profitability predictions and future mergers. Pretty much any misinformation you need, I can get it for you!

Your misinformation is just as credible as the company's info considering they change their minds more than Trump.

I am here to develop and "expand" any and all company misinformation.

What's the deal with the 3 additional 767s (767-300ERs) listed on the 1Q 2018 United investor update? I don't recall hearing anything about that. http://ir.united.com/~/media/Files/U...nal-012318.pdf

Co entered into an agreement to take 3 HA 763

I don’t get this. We are taking 3 additional 763s while we are sending a few to VQQ? What’s happening with N668UA & N652UA. Are these for growth or to cover flying while Polaris mods are being made elsewhere in the fleet?

While fuel is cheap, 767's with winglets are pretty good compared to the purchase price of a new 787. Hawaiian's are fairly new, some of the last passenger one's made. Much younger and less time than UAL's other planes.

There aren't many used 767's out there. Get 'em while you can.

Thanks, I missed that news.

The link I posted didn't show any 767s being retired in 2018.

So are they’re being stored?

New to the forum but I believe they are just getting maintenance. The United Flyertalk page has several people that spend a lot of time tracking mods, maintenance, new deliveries, etc. Here is a link to the fleet site they've put together:

https://sites.google.com/site/united...rvice-aircraft