They are going to be flown by Skywest.

3400 TT
1700 Pt. 121
850 TPIC (current corporate)
Mgr of Safety
Bachelors with high GPA
MBA with high GPA

Would UAL give me the time of day?

I would hope so...good luck.

Won’t know if you don’t apply.

I hope so!
I’m 4500TT
1200+ TPIC
Bachelors Degree
Former Corp, current 121
121 Base CP, LCA etc...

Waiting on class date, CJO Jan 3 2017; hoping for the June 5 class


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might have a couple more years. Lots of regional FO's and CA's with 5,000-20,000 TT that can't get calls but you never know until you apply!

I promise I'm not trying to be a d*ck. But, if you meet these minimums, from the pilot hiring website, and you don't have your application in, waiting to hear internet forum responses... I don't know what to tell you. When I hit 1000 turbine, you better believe my app was in. Whether or not you get the call, is anyone's guess, but we all know your chances if you don't apply.



Minimum qualifications

Certification requirements:

Unrestricted FAA Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) certificate with airplane multiengine class ratingCurrent FAA first-class medical certificateFCC Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit (RR)

Flight time requirement:

Minimum of 1,000 hours of fixed-wing turbine time

General requirements:

Current, valid passportLegal right to work in the United States

High school diploma or GED equivalent

Bachelor’s degree from accredited college or university is preferred

Reliable, punctual attendance is an essential function of the position

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Thanks .

Just make sure to spend a couple of bucks to have an aviation counseling company check over your paperwork. I had a few (what might seem like minor) errors when I filled out my app. They spotted/fixed them and I got interview offers very quickly after I submitted my app.

Add unofficially: 100 hrs in last 12 months.

CJO
 

Anyone on here with a recent CJO heard anything regarding a class date? At interview I was told could be a late as end of year or even early next year, but would still like to have a class date for planning purposes.

Word I got was that once the latest vacancy closes, they will establish new hire class dates and send out invites to those with CJOs. That means the early June invites might get less than 30 days and the rest of us will get the email "approximately one month prior". All going well we should hear something for the older poolies by mid-May. For reference, I was a March CJO and told fall class. Hope that was worst case scenario.

This latest vacancy bid should generate enough unfilled vacancies for at least 160 newhires/furlough returnees. They could end up not having any more summer classes after the early June class, or they could have 3 more 40 person classes in June and July.

Just hang in there; they need to increase pilot staffing.

Whats the cut-off date for the last furlough to return?

Late fall 2019.

(But that’s only for the very last ones, the 10 year clock will be running out between now and then for the rest.)

June
 

I wouldn't get your hopes up for the June class it's gonna be 100% furlows and military requals! My guess! Even guys in the pool because of the CPP's per the language will have no spots available in that class of 40.

If you were hired in January I believe you are not actually in the pool till July 1st. Could be wrong but that's my understanding, you must wait one 1/25. Who know anyway good luck!

Uh.... what?

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Requals have different class dates so they are not counted in the 40.

It is very possible that the class could be all furlough returns but unlikely.

the CPP language is a percentage of new hires in each class so an entire class of CPP pilots is impossible, unless there is some deferral language I don't know about that lets them put off the class dates until the last minute.

You are in the pool as soon as you are hired. Im not sure where you are getting your info but it is a bad source.

Nobody knows squat.

Actually a buddy of my best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this pilot who's flying with another pilot who heard there will be classes every two weeks of 40 plus pilots. I guess they're getting serious...

In reality, as a poolie, at this point I'm just excited for any good news. At least there is some movement in a positive direction it would seem.

I was a furlough return in February. Back then (maybe not now), my class, and I believe other classes before/after mine, were limited to about 10 furlough returns. ie, approx. 10 furlough returns showed up on Monday, then about 30 fresh new hires showed up on Tuesday >>> = 40 new students in the TK pipeline. May, or may not, be the same arrangement in June.

Dilly dilly!

That is strange that they capped the amount of furlough returns. I thought furloughs had first right of refusal to all open spots?

That's the ratio they are doing now. 10/30 for returnees/new-hires. Same for the June class. Once they hit 10, no room for other returnees. Cutoff for a class return is still 30 days out, to get one of the 10 slots. You cannot bump a new-hire out within the 30 days of class start.

I don't know the legalese. It didn't really matter when there were classes every other week (like when I returned), but could be more significant if classes are less frequent. When I called to schedule myself (about 40 days before class start date), I was told there were only a few more recall slots available in the particular date I preferred...but I doubt any returnees were postponed to the next class.

That doesn't seem fair considering they are going to start throwing pilots off the list starting this fall.......Do the furloughs have to be scheduled for a class by the 10 year mark or physically in class?

Unfortunately the company writes the rules on this... once someone selects furlough recall bypass they are now at the mercy of the company. If united stopped hiring until the 10 years expired they could leave guys/gals on the street without any recourse. They have to accept and start class before the drop dead date...

Tough double edged sword. the company must want to drain the hiring pool and get people in classes so the people they just spent time and money hiring don’t go to southwest and delta? Has that been happening a lot?

If you gave the adequate notice, more than 30 days, if I remember correctly, as a furlough return, for an advertised class date and they said anything other than welcome back my next call would be to the UALMEC. If you need the phone number let me know!

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!

Once a furloughed-bypass pilot notifies the company of their desire to re-enter the recall process (7-E) he shall be eligible for the next scheduled recall. This means that is if it is more than 30 days from a class then he/she is eligible for that class. The only way that the recallee doesn't get that class is if it is "full" with more senior recallees.

If they try to limit the recall class because of some random class size or convenience to United reason, and then put new hires in a class the next day that is a gross violation of both the letter and the spirit of the contract.

They cannot give out an unfilled vacancy to a new hire if their are pilots that have not been offered recall. (8-C-8) Once you have notified the company of your intent to come off of bypass, you are eligible for recall and must be recalled prior to any new hire being given an assignment.

Hopefully they are not playing fast and loose here. If any furloughee notifies the company by today of their intent to return, they definitely should be in the June class!! If not, then there should only be furlough returns in that class, not new hires.

Just the facts!

Furlough Returnees (FR) have the first rights to new classes over New Hires (NH) up to max class size planned by the company!
((Always!) If class size is planned for 40 and 40 FRs want back in all get it!)

Only restriction is they must notify the company by 30 days prior to the class date.

The difference in start dates starting this year is FR now only require Redoc (like returning from LOAs) vs NHs need full Basic Indoc (BI).

Which is a mistake. Many/most FR's have been out for many, many years and need the Basic Indoc.

very few qualify for redoc... most have been out on voluntary more than 2 years.

June 18/19 class of 40 just announced

Excellent news!

That's two classes for June, which is a positive trend from "no classes 'till fall."

Wow ... It's almost like someone with a clue made a command decision.

Let’s not go that far!!!

Yeah ... I know better.

Well, it wasn't exactly rocket surgery. :D Even I suggested more classes a few days ago.

This vacancy bid is going to leave NB FO understaffed at EWR and SFO; they aren't going to want those positions to remain understaffed for too long.

Frankly, I'll be surprised if we don't have at least one more summer recall/newhire class.

Actually makes perfect sense to get a bunch of guys/gals trained up into the bottom seats. Then they can pull current pilots out of those seats starting in later August to continue the training cycle.

With these classes (and hopefully more) starting now we get the training cycle going early without pulling anybody off the line for the summer. This should allow the training center to be going at full capacity while the operation still has enough pilots to fly the "higher" flying levels this Fall.

Of course, the fact that it makes so much sense is what makes it so surprising that we would do it!!