Three JS listed, two JS on Airbus
05-27-2018 | 03:15 AM
#12
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Yeah I have seen plenty of senior guys just go down and grab the jump seat, this is totally selfish . Just wait a few more mins ( you're safe , your getting to work no mater what) and maybe you get a seat in the back , and will help a fellow co-worker , alpa memember , man code , pilot get to work .
We know your seniority will get you there but don't dick the junior guy
We know your seniority will get you there but don't dick the junior guy
05-27-2018 | 07:13 AM
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Yeah I have seen plenty of senior guys just go down and grab the jump seat, this is totally selfish . Just wait a few more mins ( you're safe , your getting to work no mater what) and maybe you get a seat in the back , and will help a fellow co-worker , alpa memember , man code , pilot get to work .
We know your seniority will get you there but don't dick the junior guy
We know your seniority will get you there but don't dick the junior guy
05-27-2018 | 07:33 AM
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Totally agree. As an MCO-EWR commuter I see this happening too often so the senior guy can "go down and make sure he gets his bag on" when he would have gotten a seat in the back if he waited 10 more min and allowed a more junior pilot to get to work. Total lack of JS etiquette.
if a pilot is going to work and can’t show up to sort JS priority out in the boarding area, maybe another look at what etiquette really is could be useful.
05-27-2018 | 07:40 AM
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Agreed that we should help fellow pilots, but when you say “Total lack of JS etiquette.” are you suggesting that showing up 20 minutes before push is OK?
if a pilot is going to work and can’t show up to sort JS priority out in the boarding area, maybe another look at what etiquette really is could be useful.
if a pilot is going to work and can’t show up to sort JS priority out in the boarding area, maybe another look at what etiquette really is could be useful.
05-27-2018 | 07:53 AM
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I'm not talking about what time you show at the gate. In my case, there were 4 of us at the gate at least 30 min early one morning and the most senior one decided to go down and occupy the jumpseat before the non revs had been cleared. The other 3 of us didn't get on when one of us would have gotten the JS if he would have waited till non revs were cleared. 2 of us called the crew desk and they, thankfully, agreed to positive space us on the next flight. The most junior guy ended up buying a discounted UAL ticket before we called the crew desk to ensure he could get to work on the next flight.
05-28-2018 | 12:02 PM
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Thanks for making the effort. Most times, with a little communication, you can get everyone on board. Just a quick word with the agent helps a lot. Most are pretty good in this regard, but you have to have a Capt. that is willing to walk out to the podium.
05-28-2018 | 02:55 PM
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Yeah I have seen plenty of senior guys just go down and grab the jump seat, this is totally selfish . Just wait a few more mins ( you're safe , your getting to work no mater what) and maybe you get a seat in the back , and will help a fellow co-worker , alpa memember , man code , pilot get to work .
We know your seniority will get you there but don't dick the junior guy
We know your seniority will get you there but don't dick the junior guy
Coulda been right at 1 hour prior, agent was there and the guy just asked to go down.
Had he waited, he would have held a seat in the back. Or worse, on the bus/75 or 76/777 when they used to do more domestic hub to hub and 2 guys go down RIGHT AWAY that could have held seats in the back.
05-28-2018 | 03:08 PM
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From: Tom’s Whipping boy.
Not a commuter any more, but SOP for me was to chat with agent and get her/him working with me. Nearly always they would....
However this new "laser focus" on D:00 is putting a lot of stress on agents above and below the wing... especially in the hubs.
I suspect the agent the OP was dealing with was feeling under the gun.
However this new "laser focus" on D:00 is putting a lot of stress on agents above and below the wing... especially in the hubs.
I suspect the agent the OP was dealing with was feeling under the gun.
05-29-2018 | 12:04 AM
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Am I the only one that thinks that our jumpseat rules are complete garbage? Every other airline does FCFS within a time window and we’re the only place where a senior guy can list 10 mins prior to push and bump you off. Which has happened to me more than once already. Glad we’re on the same team! 🙄
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