IAHB756

Less people commute to IAH, DEN, ORD, and IAD than SFO/EWR/LAX so you have more “in base” pilots available to pick up trips on shorter notice that are not “commutable “. We even have pilots who reside in these hub cities but hold lines in the junior hubs on the Coasts that enjoy picking up “out of base”. I see it every day. Should we ask the NC to do away with this so the bases where more pilots live in can have more open time and PP opportunities for “in base” pilots?

baseball

The MEC won't let us vote on unicorns and ponies. It's OK to protect the pilots from themselves sometimes.

Dave Fitzgerald

It's not about getting a contract that compares to Pan Am in 1960. It's about restoring what was stolen from both sets of pilots in bankruptcy. Much of what was stolen we should have back by now. The new pilots don't have any idea what we SHOULD have.

Record profits? I want my work rules back. I want more than a lousy 3.5/day for vacation and training....and so on.

I want....I want. That's right. It's all about me.

oldmako

No thank you. Your previous posts snarky and inaccurate rejoinder persuaded me to skip taking the trouble.

There were numerous threads here and in particular, the union forum which spelled them all out. Guys a whole lot more erudite than me detailed the zits. But, it passed and it's now history. When was that, 7 years ago? And how far are we away from our next contract? And please, let's not forget what was going on at the time which encouraged a whole mess of the pilot group to push for a concessionary JCBA. "We'll get em next time!"

The FNG's might be interested in how we got here, even though many of the older guys are not.

Try a search.

oldmako

Once again, you miss my point. Please show the class where in my post I proposed a pension? I said that our current contract trails behind what others have in spite of the fact that it does not include a pension. And that pension was a huge piece of the negotiating pie. Those were pilot dollars, pilot retirements. Gone.

Pilots voted in a concessionary contract in order to "save the company" and "save the pension". Mr. Tilton and his buddies promised that it was off limits and safe. They then stole it as they had intended all along. We then voted for a contract which continued to keep some of those concessions in place.

(Google "Frontline: Can you afford to retire?" and watch the episode-specific to us) https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front.../synopsis.html

Now, if you were a young buck and had a few decades to make up for that, yes, a 401K is an excellent vehicle for playing catch up and saving for retirement. At least until Uncle Sam deems otherwise. But what if you were nearing retirement at the time and had worked here for 20 plus years? Well, you got the shaft.

Your inane yarn about me being miserable and enjoying life is just more tripe and is getting old. My life is a hoot.

pilotgolfer

Mako...check out the PP action on the Bus today. ETT alerts are going off left and right. No takers at 50 or 75% so now the trips are popping into OT at 100%. Some lucky guy just got a 2 day worth 10k.

Its gonna be a long summer...maybe I should of stayed a bunkie!

rightside02

What base is this your talking about ? Iah ?

webecheck

Out of curiosity, was the old Cal always like this on the ppu opportunities? I'm post merger, but have heard United has moved to a more Cal style staffing philosophy.

pilotgolfer

IAD......fill

BMEP100

There are other reasons why the company would drag it out, besides the obvious.

How many Captains will retire this year and next? Almost 800..

Doing anything for them, including a nice “retro pay” or signing bonus buys zero good will for mgt, cause they’re soon gone. Any “lost pension reparations” for those would have the same result....for goodwill for company and ALPA. Once a pilot is retired, he is functionally silent. Less money spent on a retiring pilot is spread out to younger ones, who will more likely carry some good will with them a while.

Also, there is a business cycle and we are near the top. All the boats are floating high. That’s not a good position to negotiate from for the company. Waiting another year to 18 months will likely put us out of the top of they cycle.

Don’t buy that dream home/ yacht.. whatever just yet.