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John Carr 05-04-2019 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Oletimer (Post 2814123)
I've seen it all. Daughter of Philpot, Son of Starley. Whatever....

Holy crap man, you're taking that WAY BACK!!!

PDRit 05-05-2019 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2814410)
Actually I can spell it. Just wanted to see if we could get a good co-pilot to spot my mistake.

Sorry slappy but I’m a captain. Just a bit of irony about you being on your usual soap box and yet looking like an illiterate at the same time. At least on the positive side you are consistent so you have that much going for you, which is nice.

PDRit 05-05-2019 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by Oletimer (Post 2814409)
you care about that stuff?

Only when someone is claiming superiority. Otherwise, no. But baseball bat is a bit thick.

Oletimer 05-05-2019 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by PDRit (Post 2814486)
Only when someone is claiming superiority. Otherwise, no. But baseball bat is a bit thick.

I didn't read a bit of superiority as you put it.

What I read is a fella who is tired of all the politically correct mumbo jumbo that is getting passed off as United Airlines Superiority in their hiring practices and convincing everyone that they got some sort of patent on hiring.

Superiority?

No, I don't think so.

Tired of all the craptastic pc people celebrating fake diversity and so on....just to pad the logbook.

I for one think it should be mandatory for all applicants to be Captain Qualified, or the military equivalent before hiring on at a major airline. 121 or 135 is fine with me.

If you think the statement above wreaks of superiority than so be it. my opinion of the issue is unwavering and I am steadfast in my beliefs and I will defend this position vehemently. Nothing superior about being strident.

Apparently UAL is strident in their beliefs that they should hire flight instructors in college? I wonder what happened to that brilliant program?

baseball 05-05-2019 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by PDRit (Post 2814484)
Sorry slappy but I’m a captain. Just a bit of irony about you being on your usual soap box and yet looking like an illiterate at the same time. At least on the positive side you are consistent so you have that much going for you, which is nice.

illiterate refers to someone who can't read or write. Evidently you read what I wrote without difficulty. Illiterate? I guess you don't know what the word actually means... Perhaps you are looking for a word that infers the connotation that I used a correctly spelled word in the wrong context. illiterate? Nah.... Fast typer? Yep. Back at you slappy.

DaMnad 05-05-2019 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by PDRit (Post 2814406)
Former LEC and MEC Chairman...didn’t UAL fire one of those types on probation recently? Advice to new hires. Color within the lines for a minimum of 12 months. Ex LEC and MEC members may not be the best example. If they are like most UAL MEC and LEC members they don’t make a good case for people you want to hire.

Don’t know who u r talking about, but was that person never a Captain? As to your second issue (most lec and mec members) highly disagree!

TripleSpool 05-05-2019 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by PDRit (Post 2813423)
Sounds like you think it’s unjust because you didn’t get hired. If you were hired would you be bearing your drum ?

Nepotism? You are saying that UAL should not be hiring family members but there are 12,000+ pilots clamoring for the ability to hire family.

You have claimed many things about the UAL hiring. However, I have flown with some hires from 2013 onward recently that were outstanding people and good pilots. Appears the hiring and training department is doing a good job from the end product I see on the line.

The flak only gets heavy when you are over the target:-)...as they say.

Hey listen, I’m glad you are firmly on the inside with a full report on recent hiring trends and performance reviews. There is really no reason for me to repeat myself to the point of sounding redundant. Nepotism, as defined by you, can not be made right whether that number is 12,000 or 100 because less qualified applicants are still bypassing guys/gals with far greater expertise.

Would you agree that time is one of the most precious commodities we have as professionals aviators? If the answer is yes, then I think you would also agree that a 25 year old sitting in the right seat of a 320 is far less deserving than that of a regional or corporate pilot in his/her 40s striving for the same objective. This is by design, of course. Company culture building, future planning, and all that HR jazz which sounds real good on wide platform presentations.

Once again, I think highly of United as an airline and its pilots so please refrain from taking offense to my posts if they hit home ..it’s not personal - it’s the truth. And no, I’m not bitter. 90% of pilots applying to any one legacy have their apps/interview with the other two, as well. Options are good:-)

PDRit 05-05-2019 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by TripleSpool (Post 2814667)
The flak only gets heavy when you are over the target:-)...as they say.

Hey listen, I’m glad you are firmly on the inside with a full report on recent hiring trends and performance reviews. There is really no reason for me to repeat myself to the point of sounding redundant. Nepotism, as defined by you, can not be made right whether that number is 12,000 or 100 because less qualified applicants are still bypassing guys/gals with far greater expertise.

Would you agree that time is one of the most precious commodities we have as professionals aviators? If the answer is yes, then I think you would also agree that a 25 year old sitting in the right seat of a 320 is far less deserving than that of a regional or corporate pilot in his/her 40s striving for the same objective. This is by design, of course. Company culture building, future planning, and all that HR jazz which sounds real good on wide platform presentations.

Once again, I think highly of United as an airline and its pilots so please refrain from taking offense to my posts if they hit home ..it’s not personal - it’s the truth. And no, I’m not bitter. 90% of pilots applying to any one legacy have their apps/interview with the other two, as well. Options are good:-)

I’ve seen pilots with thousands of hours that are bad pilots. Hours is but one factor.

I think that your issue may be that you are opinionated and perhaps you have expressed your displeasure about UAL hiring to someone that poisoned penned you. Someone that was able to piece together who you are or someone you spoke to that works for UAL might have quietly sent a negative letter in regards to your application.

I have heard of UAX pilots that have created so many issues in the operation that they were tagged as “never hire” at UAL.

TripleSpool 05-05-2019 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by PDRit (Post 2814752)
I’ve seen pilots with thousands of hours that are bad pilots. Hours is but one factor.

I think that your issue may be that you are opinionated and perhaps you have expressed your displeasure about UAL hiring to someone that poisoned penned you. Someone that was able to piece together who you are or someone you spoke to that works for UAL might have quietly sent a negative letter in regards to your application.

I have heard of UAX pilots that have created so many issues in the operation that they were tagged as “never hire” at UAL.

Agree with your last sentence and heard of this happening in other places, too.
As far as someone whose agenda is out to get me, for whatever reason, I hope they lay their ‘poison pen’ down and not waste their time. I’m just a regular Joe.

I’d rather engage a person with strong opinions, even opposing ones, then talk to a person whose mind I have to try and read))) everything else is speculative.

tomgoodman 05-05-2019 12:28 PM

Reverse nepotism
 
Delta used to have an unusual policy: if any of your relatives was already on the payroll, you were ineligible for hiring. (One pilot was forced to retire at age 59 so that his son could start class.) That rule was abolished in the mid-80s, IIRC.


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