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awax 08-15-2018 09:21 AM

Haters gonna hate, yo. Hate the game, not the player.

You can’t be mad at a kid who took advantage of a program offered by the company. This whole thread reminds of that joke......what’s the difference between a b!tch and a wh0re?

This kid works here now and will have 42 year career. Look at the top of our list today, the sub UA ‘78 hires are sitting at about that longevity. How much crap to you give them?

The smart money is on lifting this kid up, teaching him about labor’s past, and making a strong unionist out of him. Like it or not, he’s going to carry the torch to 2060. Shun him (and other young pilots) or teach them, that’s on us.

awax 08-15-2018 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2654769)
Yup.

So you’re telling me this kid is more qualified than a career mil guy who just isn’t current?

He’s got as much (maybe more) airline experience as a career mil guy. Apparently he met min standard which probably includes being current. So yeah, to the scantron, he’s more qualified.

John Carr 08-15-2018 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2655865)
Apparently he met min standard which probably includes being current.

Everything points to him being a ATCA grad.

If true, he met THAT min standard, but not OTS min standard.

Noworkallplay 08-15-2018 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Chuck D (Post 2654824)
No, and there’s no point losing sleep over this. Also a high-ish timer when hired here. The company hires plenty of retired mil, 10-15k+ hr regional people, etc. Every single company also takes some low time, young pilots. The only thing we can hope is they vet them well.

Not every company hires people with zero jet time and no PIC jet/turbo prop. I know at FedEx we are still requiring the 1,000 PIC turbo prop or jet with a MTOGW 12.5k or greater. So he/she would not have met our minimums.

John Carr 08-15-2018 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 2655977)
Not every company hires people with zero jet time and no PIC jet/turbo prop. I know at FedEx we are still requiring the 1,000 PIC turbo prop or jet with a MTOGW 12.5k or greater. So he/she would not have met our minimums.

Pretty sure it went from required to preferred.


1500 hours total fixed-wing time as pilot-in-command (PIC) or second-in-command in multi-engine turbo-prop A/C or jet A/C or combination thereof (GTOW 12,500). A minimum of 1000 hours total fixed-wing pilot-in-command in multi-engine turbo prop A/C or jet A/C or combination thereof (GTOW 12,500 or greater) is preferred

Minimums:
-ATP
-1,500 fixed wing PIC/SIC multiengine turbine (at least 1,000 of which is PIC preferred)
Pretty sure at least 1 pilot hired at FedEx this summer didn’t have it.

Airway 08-15-2018 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 2655923)
Everything points to him being a ATCA grad.

If true, he met THAT min standard, but not OTS min standard.

The first (or early one) of many I'm guessing.

intrepidcv11 08-15-2018 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Brahma Fear (Post 2655481)
Had his Dad in the jumpseat. Nice guy, told me how hard his son worked to get here. I’m happy for the kid but that comment made me throw up in my mouth a little....

If his dad had any semblance of common sense he wouldn’t be spouting off at all that it was his kid that got hired at 23 amongst pilots. If you feel the need to brag do it towards friends outside of work. Only drawing uneeded attention to the kid.

BoJet 08-16-2018 02:06 AM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2655635)
The smart money is on lifting this kid up, teaching him about labor’s past, and making a strong unionist out of him. Like it or not, he’s going to carry the torch to 2060. Shun him (and other young pilots) or teach them, that’s on us.

One of the best posts I’ve read on here in a while...

awax 08-16-2018 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 2655923)

If true, he met THAT min standard, but not OTS min standard.

Which I’m certain is not considered for a pilot job at United. He probably didn’t pass the Bar, or have an MCAT on file but still got hired. Go figure.

IHateYou 08-17-2018 09:59 AM

23 and no jet time and no experience is just flat out dangerous.


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