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09-21-2018, 09:18 PM
#71
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
That physically hurt to read......you may not know it but you are most likely extremely unhealthy.
09-21-2018, 11:49 PM
#72
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Replying to all of you who think I am a troll. I would run 7 miles every day at work too. I guess that isn't going to convince anyone that I am healthy either. As long as you can sleep when you are off it is no problem. Pilot for 20 years, worked shifts for the 10 years prior. I have called in sick for myself once a year, and I don't work if I am sick. My cholesterol could be lower but no health issues otherwise. I fly with a lot of guys younger than me who eat M&Ms the whole flight, go out for crap food and never work out, and find they have no energy.
09-22-2018, 04:33 AM
#73
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Replying to all of you who think I am a troll. I would run 7 miles every day at work too. I guess that isn't going to convince anyone that I am healthy either. As long as you can sleep when you are off it is no problem. Pilot for 20 years, worked shifts for the 10 years prior. I have called in sick for myself once a year, and I don't work if I am sick. My cholesterol could be lower but no health issues otherwise. I fly with a lot of guys younger than me who eat M&Ms the whole flight, go out for crap food and never work out, and find they have no energy.
Diet and exercise are great but not a silver bullet against decades or hard core abuse to the body due to the demands of a punishing airline schedule.
09-22-2018, 08:14 AM
#74
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever
Let me rephrase, did you say anything to anyone when the capt fell asleep during the before start check list? Or is that commonplace so you said nothing and continued on with the flight?
You can make yourself lie in bed for hours in the afternoon but you can't make yourself sleep.
I did that type of flying for fifteen years. I am very glad to be away from it now.
09-22-2018, 09:00 AM
#75
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Replying to all of you who think I am a troll. I would run 7 miles every day at work too. I guess that isn't going to convince anyone that I am healthy either. As long as you can sleep when you are off it is no problem. Pilot for 20 years, worked shifts for the 10 years prior. I have called in sick for myself once a year, and I don't work if I am sick. My cholesterol could be lower but no health issues otherwise. I fly with a lot of guys younger than me who eat M&Ms the whole flight, go out for crap food and never work out, and find they have no energy.
Not that you care but I don’t believe it one bit. It’s biologically impossible to run a schedule like that and have no issue with fatigue. Had you said you were tired or that you slept 25 hours after those four days or something thereof, it would be more believable. Anyway, enjoy your early death.
09-22-2018, 09:13 AM
#76
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Humans may be diurnal, but we HAVE been doing shift work for generations.
Yes, shift work is physically hard and has medically-proven downsides to both overall health, weight, and lifespan...but there are ways and opportunities to mitigate those effects for a pilot that doctors, nurses, police officers, factory workers, etc. simply don’t have.
I’d bet cargo pilots as a group are far healthier than 8-5 workers as a group.
Me? Don’t like hub turns, perhaps because I don’t nap well/easily in a sleep room. I personally prefer turns/out-and-backs that slide my body 4-5 hours vs. flipping day and night.
Yes, shift work is physically hard and has medically-proven downsides to both overall health, weight, and lifespan...but there are ways and opportunities to mitigate those effects for a pilot that doctors, nurses, police officers, factory workers, etc. simply don’t have.
I’d bet cargo pilots as a group are far healthier than 8-5 workers as a group.
Me? Don’t like hub turns, perhaps because I don’t nap well/easily in a sleep room. I personally prefer turns/out-and-backs that slide my body 4-5 hours vs. flipping day and night.
09-22-2018, 10:02 AM
#78
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Originally Posted by Larry in TN
It was discussed. It, and situations like it, were common.
You can make yourself lie in bed for hours in the afternoon but you can't make yourself sleep.
I did that type of flying for fifteen years. I am very glad to be away from it now.
You can make yourself lie in bed for hours in the afternoon but you can't make yourself sleep.
I did that type of flying for fifteen years. I am very glad to be away from it now.
09-22-2018, 10:39 AM
#79
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
For the same company as I.....
Some should read the accident report of the Kalitta DC8 at Gitmo to see what fatigue can do.
09-22-2018, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
I’d bet cargo pilots as a group are far healthier than 8-5 workers as a group.
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