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10-14-2018, 08:41 AM

#101

Airway

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Originally Posted by worstpilotever

My understanding is he was a new hire. Called in sick at fedex to go to class at UAL. Problem is he was on probation at fedex still and they found out.

This guy is probably a pain in the *** trying to figure out what he wants to order at a restaurant.

10-14-2018, 08:50 AM

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wrxpilot

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Wow. Is this just heresay, or does someone know that this actually happened?

10-14-2018, 09:39 AM

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John Carr

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Originally Posted by Airway

This guy is probably a pain in the *** trying to figure out what he wants to order at a restaurant.

He’s the tool that makes the bartender rattle off ALL the beers on tap, samples 2-3, then just orders a bud light.

The guy got through the hogan/interview, as well as fedex’s cumbersome process. Pilots we hired due in part to their decision making abilities.......

Again, assuming what’s being posted is true.

10-14-2018, 10:12 AM

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I’m not familiar with this FedEx/UAL rumor, but I do personally know of a pilot that was fired from JetBlue and Delta on the same day.

This was after 9/11 and said pilot told DAL he was taking full time MIL leave but instead went to JB full time to “hedge his bets” with two seniority numbers. Meanwhile, he told JB he was furloughed (he wasn’t) since JB did not require furloughed pilots to resign senority numbers.

Once at JB he abused MIL leave to get holidays and weekends off—-perhaps not the best idea when squadron mates were in flight ops management at both airlines. The dots were eventually connected.

After the dust settled he had zero seniority numbers. Oops.

10-14-2018, 03:08 PM

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I have a hard time throwing a fellow pilot under the bus on this one. These airlines will screw a pilot without a second thought if it makes sense to them financially. This guy is making life altering decisions that will impact his family for a long time. I would hope that United does the right thing and offers him another class date if he explains the cold feet and apologizes to the proper people. I can see the people in charge having a heart if he was graceful and showed respect on the way out.

10-14-2018, 03:57 PM

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Brahma Fear

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Originally Posted by Aquaticus

I agree. More details needed about how this pilot went about it (did they bold face lie or anything like that) but both airlines would furlough a pilot on day 1 of Indoc and not bat an eye. I don’t have a problem with him trying to protect himself a little.

10-14-2018, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by John Carr

Agree, but it's HR's house and HR's rules.

"hate the game".

I do hate the game, but I understand there’s nothing I can do about it.

10-15-2018, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquaticus

I can definitely sympathize with this person, assuming it actually happened. I was in the same situation as them, and anguished over the decision for weeks. At the same time, I felt the right thing to do was to notify United with at least two weeks notice that I was withdrawing from my class date and appreciated the opportunity. I’d imagine that also means I will never be considered at UAL again, but the response I received from UAL was actually quite professional and cordial.

I know that United could and has furloughed several times in the past. But the professional course of action in my mind was to give proper notice. I would not have been comfortable making the choices that this (still theoretical) person made.